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View Poll Results: Who is the next rising star of Georgia?
Augusta 26 39.39%
Macon 12 18.18%
Columbus 28 42.42%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-11-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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I'll give you The Masters..but aside from that one week a year, nit much else.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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Birmingham alone is much larger than the 3 in this "poll". Huntsville is about the same size as the Fall Line cities but has a lot more going on economically
You should take a closer look at Birmingham the city itself has a population of only 212,000 people and that is declining rapidly. The outlying communities are what makes Birmingham seem large. However the downfall for the city is a lack of growth. Birmingham has long suffered from low to negative job growth. Huntsville is on track to become Alabama's largest city possibly as soon as the 2020 census. The city is doing a great job in giving incentives to companies to locate there driving the economy in a positive manner. However, Huntsville does have a height restriction on buildings downtown so they don’t have a real definable skyline. The city is however the star of Alabama. Earlier this year AL.com ran an article about population shifts in Alabama. The urban centers of Birmingham, Mobile, and Montgomery are all declining. Areas like Auburn and Lee County as well as Dothan and Houston county are booming. Montgomery reminds me a lot of Macon. While it is still the population hub it’s bedroom community of Prattville is outpacing it in growth. I see this with Warner Robins and Macon. If you look at Columbus growth it is slow but the bedroom communities in Alabama are among the fastest growing in Alabama. When Columbus officials realize this and the city begins marketing itself as a region that area could be the next shining star of Georgia.

However to answer this thread I honestly believe each city has something positive to offer in its own light. Augusta is tops in higher education and the medical industry outside of the Atlanta area. Savannah is Georgia’s tourism destination. The city is rich in history and southern charm. It’s not really looking to urbanize but maintain sustainable growth while preserving its history. Macon has a lot going with higher education especially with Mercer University. The city has a lot going with its access to interstates and close proximity to Atlanta. Macon is also culturally and historically rich. It’s largest suburb of Warner Robins only signifies its regional growth potential. Columbus has been unique for a while the city is honestly Georgia’s business core outside of Meyro Atlanta. The city has been home to Aflac, Synovus, TSYS, WC Bradley (Charbroil), Schuster Enterprises, and Salt Life to name a few. The city was also home to Carmike Cinemas and Tom’s Snacks. There is a lot of old money in the city. Columbus low cost of living and growing tourist attractions are a selling point for the city. Do in my opinion all the cities have something positive in their favor and each hold a potential outcome to be Georgia’s next star in its own light. Or who knows Atlanta can keep spreading and eventually swallow all of them.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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[Savannah] is not really looking to urbanize but maintain sustainable growth while preserving its history.
That was true 20 years ago. Today metro Savannah is the fastest-growing 2nd-tier GA city (by percentage every year, and in a recent year it gained more new residents than metro Augusta, which has a third more people than metro Savannah). Most Savannahians aren't sipping mint juleps and ordering hoop skirts these days. Btw: The 6 islands east of the city (40,000 people) are fully urbanized, as is Pooler to the west (25,000). Savannah is the boomin' 2nd tier, which is kind of what the OP said at the start of this thread. "Will the other three cities step out in the future?"
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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Metro Augusta is bigger, because it’s the larger metro plain and simple. We also have the second largest urban area. The Medical District right next to downtown employs over 25,000. The Cyber Institute downtown and Augusta Cyberworks in nearby Harrisburg will both employ thousands over the next few years. Unisys opened downtown a few years ago is up to 700. Taxslayer moved their headquarters downtown. Good jobs will make people drive a further distance.


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Augusta is pretty much already a star, what with the Masters, the Army Cyber Command, and the Medical College of Georgia.
The same way Raleigh is right now. It’s not a tourist destination, but it’s a employment destination.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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If Savannah ever eventually consolidates with Chatham it would instantly become the state's second largest city with a 50,000 person cushion
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:30 PM
 
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That's an exercise in stuff that's never going to happen though.

Cobb/Marietta and Gwinnett/Lawrenceville would consolidate before Chatham, may as well just say if hell freezes over.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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That was said for years too in Macon, but it did happen. There has been a push for consolidation in Chatham and signs of it succeeding are more favorable than in years past. Obviously the other existing cities like Pooler, Port Wentworth, Garden City, and Bloomingdale would be excluded but Savannah would still have a comfortable edge as second largest city. As it is now it has been a pissing match between the consolidated cuties of Augusta and Columbus which are usually only separated by a few thousand people in each census count
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:46 PM
 
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Oh ok, I didn't realize a city/county consolidation in Chatham would leave out the other incorporated cities.

I know Richmond has a couple really tiny cities which didn't consolidate, but it just seems like more of an administrative headache to achieve consolidation, when what a third? of the county's population isn't part of consolidation. I wonder if there are any other current examples of that type of county.

I always thought Muscogee had it really easy, half the county land area is Ft Benning and doesn't require any services.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Oh ok, I didn't realize a city/county consolidation in Chatham would leave out the other incorporated cities.

I know Richmond has a couple really tiny cities which didn't consolidate, but it just seems like more of an administrative headache to achieve consolidation, when what a third? of the county's population isn't part of consolidation. I wonder if there are any other current examples of that type of county.

I always thought Muscogee had it really easy, half the county land area is Ft Benning and doesn't require any services.
Consolidations can be dicey, but I agree with AugNative: At one time, Macon was never going to consolidate, and I recall that Augusta was a similar case in the 1980s. New administrations and city-county cooperation are what changes things. Savannah-Chatham will be tough. Pooler, Garden City and Port Wentworth will be out of any deal, just like Blythe and Hephzibah were in Richmond. In Chatham, you're basically talking Savannah, the six islands, Georgetown, and Isle of Hope/Sandfly. There's a lot of opposition out there.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Omitting Charlotte MSA (which extends into 3 counties of SC) and Atlanta.

I think Augusta and Savannah (sitting on the border of SC) are a lot more in competition with their neighbors to the North and East (SC), than the rest of GA. South Carolina, like North Carolina has a healthy balance in cities. What is making Charleston more attractive to people, when Savannah is it's peer city and closest largest metropolitan area?

Georgia and South Carolina's MSA Growth since 2010

#61. Greenville MSA - 906,626 (+82,514) - 10.01% growth
#70. Columbia MSA - 832,666 (+65,068) - 8.48% growth
#74. Charleston MSA - 787,643 (+123,036) - 18.51% growth
#112. Myrtle Beach MSA - 480,891 (+104,366) - 27.65% growth
#151. Spartanburg MSA - 341,298 (+28,030) - 8.95% growth

Georgia's MSA growth
#92. Augusta MSA - 604,167 (+39,294) - 6.96% growth
#137 Savannah MSA - 389,494 (+41,833) - 12.05% growth
#163 Columbus MSA - 305,421 (+10,676) - 3.59% growth
#199 Macon MSA - 229,737 (-2,556) - 1.10% decline

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