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Old 07-19-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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People are so obsessed with abortion. We need to work on preventing pregnancy in the first place: education for young people, for one thing. And give away condoms, for Pete's sake! It's cheaper than an unwanted pregnancy!
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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People are so obsessed with abortion. We need to work on preventing pregnancy in the first place: education for young people, for one thing. And give away condoms, for Pete's sake! It's cheaper than an unwanted pregnancy!

Nobody is currently being denied a legal abortion in Georgia right now. That is what makes this so silly and it shows that the actual law really isn't the issue because it isn't even in place (and never will be because it is unconstitutional and will be promptly stuck down by the SCOTUS)
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Old 07-23-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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Article from the WSJ. Basically says that most the numbers you see are voodoo economics and lies and its a very poor use of taxpayer money.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:12 PM
 
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Article from the WSJ. Basically says that most the numbers you see are voodoo economics and lies and its a very poor use of taxpayer money.
That's an OPINION piece in the WSJ not an "article" ... and those of us who LIVE in Georgia know good and well that the film and TV subsidies have been anything but a flop. Not only have they led to BILLIONS in actual spending on productions, they have led to BILLIONS in private investment in the local economies of our communities for infrastructure and commercial, retail, and residential development completely unrelated to the incentive program.

Ask anybody who lives in Fayetteville, Georgia what the incentives have meant to them. Then get back to me.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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That's an OPINION piece in the WSJ not an "article" ... and those of us who LIVE in Georgia know good and well that the film and TV subsidies have been anything but a flop. Not only have they led to BILLIONS in actual spending on productions, they have led to BILLIONS in private investment in the local economies of our communities for infrastructure and commercial, retail, and residential development completely unrelated to the incentive program.

Ask anybody who lives in Fayetteville, Georgia what the incentives have meant to them. Then get back to me.



Its backed up with actual numbers. Not just numbers pulled out of thin air like "BILLIONS" like you tried to do.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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That's an OPINION piece in the WSJ not an "article" ... and those of us who LIVE in Georgia know good and well that the film and TV subsidies have been anything but a flop. Not only have they led to BILLIONS in actual spending on productions, they have led to BILLIONS in private investment in the local economies of our communities for infrastructure and commercial, retail, and residential development completely unrelated to the incentive program.

Ask anybody who lives in Fayetteville, Georgia what the incentives have meant to them. Then get back to me.
I have no doubt that people in Fayetteville have benefited. You realize of course that Fayetteville represents around 0.16% of GA’s population. When you look at state subsidies you need to consider the costs vs benefits for 100% of the population.
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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Pretty funny. Someone from North Carolina bragging about their "mountains" and "beaches." Its like comparing the two states apple production or oil and gas industry or stock markets.
Although way off topic, I have to admit that the ones near Asheville and along I-40 between Asheville to TN are pretty nice, also most people I knew that went ski'ing went to NC so they aren't really bad by any means. I haven't really seen their beaches. For me, its Florida or California for those.

Anyway...

The main issue with this bill - and why it needs to be fought (and honestly I'm pretty happy that the filming industry isn't standing for it) is its infringement upon womens rights. Its easy for some male politician in a republican house to tell some woman she can't have an abortion when said man has never, and can never carry a child - and especially bare one unfairly. I could easily see actresses boycotting such a bill and refusing to film in the state because of it. Why? Because not only do they not like what it stands for, but they have the power to. They can go to pretty much any place in the country to film. Why should they be expected to tolerate this idiocracy?
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:21 PM
 
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They can go to pretty much any place in the country to film. Why should they be expected to tolerate this idiocracy?
If they’re an A-lister with star power they can (1) influence the production location and (2) afford to turn down the work if the location sticks and is incompatible with their beliefs.

If they’re working on a small production or aren’t a “name” they can’t just go “any place”. They need to work.

The producers - i.e. the money people - often depend on tax breaks to even make the production work financially, and Georgia is much more generous than other states. Now, if another state offers the same package then it’s an easier call for Hollywood to make.

It’s far too simplistic to say they can go anywhere.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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If they’re an A-lister with star power they can (1) influence the production location and (2) afford to turn down the work if the location sticks and is incompatible with their beliefs.

If they’re working on a small production or aren’t a “name” they can’t just go “any place”. They need to work.

The producers - i.e. the money people - often depend on tax breaks to even make the production work financially, and Georgia is much more generous than other states. Now, if another state offers the same package then it’s an easier call for Hollywood to make.

It’s far too simplistic to say they can go anywhere.
But being realistic, would you doubt other states wouldn't practically drool over having that Industry and offer tax breaks / incentives to attract their business while they are currently at the brink of political instability in Georgia? I wouldn't. California already has.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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But being realistic, would you doubt other states wouldn't practically drool over having that Industry and offer tax breaks / incentives to attract their business while they are currently at the brink of political instability in Georgia? I wouldn't. California already has.
More and more states are doing the math and realizing it’s not worth it. North Carolina and Florida are two examples.

California extended and enhanced its program a year ago independent of the current Georgia issues.
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