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Old 09-26-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Better yet, let's change the speed limit to match cars. If you buy a Porshe 911, then a speed limit of 120 is what you get, if you have a toyota yaris, then it's 70. Some cars are just designed to go faster than others. a 8000lb Denali isn't as safe to drive at a 100 as a 911.
They tried something like that in Montana and it failed miserably. Better to have a posted speed limit.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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They tried something like that in Montana and it failed miserably. Better to have a posted speed limit.



Sorry, but you're sadly mis-informed. I was in college during the last "Reasonable and Prudent" speed limit era. The change away was for several reasons (I was there for the reversion back to posted limits too), the overwhelming reason was the Federal Government threatening to take away funding for road maintenance. Oddly enough, the same tactic was used in Wyoming to pressure the change in drinking age from 18 to 21 a few years before (I was born and raised in Wyoming). Secondarily, the reversion back ot posted limites was due to out-of-state drivers acting poorly on roads. It was coined the "Montanabahn" in lots of different media outlets, where these non-residents would come into the state and drive in anything BUT a "Reasonable and Prudent" manor. But this was way on down the list, and those drivers soon found that just because there wasn't a Posted speed limit did not mean that law enforcement wouldn't write tickets for reckless driving.


It didn't "fail miserably". It was abused by the ignorant and forced to change by our Lord Overseers who felt the serfs shouldn't do something that those Lords didn't understand, being limited in experience to their congested urban centers.





Because I was a dumb college kid in a state without posted speed limits, I collected a number of $5 "Waste of natural resources" fines (tickets). It was what the law enforcement wrote when they pulled you over to dress you down about your driving.







FWIW, in Wyoming when the feds said that 65mph limits were "too damn fast" and again threatened to remove road funding (at the same time as the Montana crackdown), they simply pushed a bill through the state legislature that said 0~4mph over 55 was a $5 fine with a $5 credit for wearing a seatbelt, and 5~9moh over the limit was a $10 fine with the same $5 credit for seatbelt use.





As for the Original post, who cares what the posted limits are... no one pays any mind to them in the first place and law enforcement don't really need them to hoover the money form your pockets anyway.


Personally, I'm more for properly educated/trained drivers who will drive according to what conditions allow than I am for set limits. But, 'Murika!, people think they have a Right to operate a vehicle no matter what, so no chance of ever getting good education in place.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Sorry, but you're sadly mis-informed. I was in college during the last "Reasonable and Prudent" speed limit era. The change away was for several reasons (I was there for the reversion back to posted limits too), the overwhelming reason was the Federal Government threatening to take away funding for road maintenance.
I'm well aware that's what it was. Hence why I said "something like that."

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Personally, I'm more for properly educated/trained drivers who will drive according to what conditions allow than I am for set limits. But, 'Murika!, people think they have a Right to operate a vehicle no matter what, so no chance of ever getting good education in place.
I believe that driving tests should be much tougher and that you should have to retake it every time you renew your license.
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:40 AM
 
Location: East Side of ATL
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South and east of Macon, yes. Mostly flat, wide open, plenty of room.

Not sure about I-20.
I-20E is the same as well. Last time, I went through the area in April, they were doing concrete slab replacement and putting up crossover barriers as well.
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