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Old 10-31-2019, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Venice, FL
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This was NOT supposed to happen. LESS children in Georgia have healthcare coverage now.

We lost our insurance, we lost our Doctors, we paid more for less coverge, AND more children in Georgia are being left exposed.

Georgians have been harmed, and it needs to end. I wonder if this is true of other States, or if just happened in Georgia?

 
Old 10-31-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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To the best of my knowledge (3 direct family members in healthcare), it's happening everywhere just at different rates. Not that the ACA really provided for more people to begin with, the "children" who were going without were children who, in the overwhelming majority of cases, could have been covered if their parents/guardians had Tried to get them coverage. At no other time in my life have I known more people WITHOUT healthcare, most of those people simply cannot afford it.



*shrugs* It's just lobbyists buying politicians for fiscal gains. Nothing new here. Any perceived improvement for the common person is simply accidental. Nothing new here either...


With any luck, the next generation of family practice doctors will set individual need for care high and go back to running practices that will self-insure people. My dentist does this now (takes insurance, offers their Own in-house insurance and works with cash-only customers by offering payment plans), he seems to honestly care about providing for the community. Shame that health care was deregulated and turned from a "for care" to a "for profit" industry.
 
Old 10-31-2019, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Venice, FL
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It needs to be deregulated, retail pricing for cash paying customers must be made transparent like new car price stickers, and Insurance company's must be allowed to compete across state lines for customers.

The more free market economy it becomes, the more prices will come down. We are living proof of this.

We've been cash payers since Aetna was forced by the Federal Government to cancel us since our plan didn't conform with ACA 3 years ago. We had catastrophic coverage only with $5,000 deductible we were totally happy with. We used our $20,000 HSA balance to cover any potential deductibles.

I tell all providers we have no insurance coverage, are paying cash (not credit card) and I shop prices for all non-emergency care by getting written price quotes (must put $ amt next to each billing code #) from at least 2 different providers.

Some hate it because they know I'm forcing them to compete on price. Some like it because they don't have to do a ton of insurance company paperwork, and they receive immediate cash payment.

I also check the healthcare providers ratings on the Internet to control quality.

We are saving huge money this way. The prices we are paying are 1/2 what they bill insurance companies for the same billing codes, and we are paying 1/2 the insurance company negotiated prices for non covered items that normaly fall below most peoples insurance deductibles.
 
Old 10-31-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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https://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/lo...0e8dd644a.html

This was NOT supposed to happen. LESS children in Georgia have healthcare coverage now.

We lost our insurance, we lost our Doctors, we paid more for less coverge, AND more children in Georgia are being left exposed.

Georgians have been harmed, and it needs to end. I wonder if this is true of other States, or if just happened in Georgia?
The ACA, no longer really exists. Most companies have withdrawn as the subsidies that were part of original plan have been cut in current administration so not surprise this has happened in Georgia and is also occurring nationally
 
Old 10-31-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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The ACA, no longer really exists. Most companies have withdrawn as the subsidies that were part of original plan have been cut in current administration so not surprise this has happened in Georgia and is also occurring nationally
Many companies were pulling out even under the previous administration. It’s a plan built like a house of cards.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a0c_story.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...nges/88825798/

https://www.mobihealthnews.com/conte...-based-markets
 
Old 10-31-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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Many companies were pulling out even under the previous administration. It’s a plan built like a house of cards.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...a0c_story.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...nges/88825798/

https://www.mobihealthnews.com/conte...-based-markets
Don’t disagree but the facts are this administration has also accelerated the process and there is nowhere for most of those to land in.

Health Care is an issue in this country that regardless of Party in power has been increasing in costs faster than most people salaries.
 
Old 10-31-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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Don’t disagree but the facts are this administration has also accelerated the process and there is nowhere for most of those to land in.

Health Care is an issue in this country that regardless of Party in power has been increasing in costs faster than most people salaries.
Can’t disagree with you.

I’m a big fan of Australia’s public/private system. They deliver universal healthcare for about the same cost as we pay in our Medicare deductions but then have private options for better/quicker care.
 
Old 11-01-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Can’t disagree with you.

I’m a big fan of Australia’s public/private system. They deliver universal healthcare for about the same cost as we pay in our Medicare deductions but then have private options for better/quicker care.
Yes I think a mix like theirs is our best bet moving forward. Whether it happens I won’t hold my breath. But yes our system is too costly and doesn’t deliver better outcomes and the increases are unsustainable.
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