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View Poll Results: Were is next hotspot for growth in georgia?
Augusta 83 32.68%
Columbus 86 33.86%
Macon 38 14.96%
Savannah 83 32.68%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 254. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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It that all going in Savannah....... come on get real.....
Warner Robins metro area still among fastest growing - The Sun News - Macon (http://www.macon.com/197/story/664664.html - broken link)

Houston’s retail growth outlook appears strong - Business - Macon (http://www.macon.com/102/story/672275.html - broken link)

21st Century Partnership

http://www.retailworksusa.com/katapu...10/promo10.pdf

This is another project in south Macon
http://www.sofrangroup.com/pdf/Macon...%20Station.pdf

http://www.thesummitgroupmacon.com/listings/images/listing_pdf/262.pdf (broken link)

There is no way you can tell me that the Savannah River landing project is larger than the entire Providence project in north Macon... I reviewed the Website and its not as large..... Providence project is 216 acres and the Savannah river Landing is 54 acres......Nice try....

Riverfront Real Estate - Savannah River Landing - Savannah Georgia
Welcome to Providence - A Family Village (http://providencemacon.com/about.html - broken link)

I did not list all the projects Downtown.

The physical size of the project is not what I'm referring to. There are 1000 acre projects that are nowhere near the financial cost of the Savannah River Landing. Like I said, the cost of the Savannah River Landing is close to
$1 Billion. It has been written about everywhere from the WSJ to the New York Times. I haven't seen the writeups about the cost of the Providence Macon project. Can you provide the link telling us what the cost will be?
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Old 04-18-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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I'm done trying to prove facts to someone who is unwilling to listen. Just let newtown be. We all know how much more Savannah is recognized over Macon. With that, I'm done.
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Old 04-18-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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The physical size of the project is not what I'm referring to. There are 1000 acre projects that are nowhere near the financial cost of the Savannah River Landing. Like I said, the cost of the Savannah River Landing is close to
$1 Billion. It has been written about everywhere from the WSJ to the New York Times. I haven't seen the writeups about the cost of the Providence Macon project. Can you provide the link telling us what the cost will be?
Well first of all where is you links where the cost of stated.... no link yet.... never mind i will look it up my self...

Well according to article its 800 mill not quite 1 billion...
Ambling Companies
But I'm not sure of the total cost of the Providence Community project But i'm sure it's more because not only does it includes huge Commercial and up scale Retail; but loft apartments and multi -sub divisions, town homes and single family housing.....
I 'm sure the town homes and single family homes start are starting in 250-350K or more each..........

From the pics in the yellow outlines the 4 phases of the commercial and retail, and the Amphitheater, multiple subdivisions and town homes are surrounding the retail/commercial projects.


The Red out line other big project in north Macon as well.Like the 450,000 sq ft. North winds (commercial/retail), (600,000 sq ft)Market place at Bass and (350,000 sq ft) Lull water village( retail) and the newly complete 800,000 sq ft. "Shoppes at River Crossing (new-open air mall) completed March 2008.....
www.shoppesatrivercrossing.com

South Macon
http://www.moonfamilyproperties.com/...alescharts.gif

And let not talk about the South Macon/bibb county developments........(Hartley station)Yet another Lifestyle/"Strip Center" is under construction in South Macon just off of I-75 South on Hartley Bridge Road. Moon Family Properties is behind this 1.1 million sqft project. It will include 1,700 single family units, two to four story condos, and apartment community, retail, dinning, a midrise hotel, and office space. The development will be on both sides of Hartley Bridge Rd. http://www.sofrangroup.com/pdf/Macon...%20Station.pdf
Columbus-based company wants to turn about 1,100 acres of undeveloped land into a $490 million mega-development in south Bibb County
.

The 700 block of Houston Road would be rezoned from agricultural to a planned development commercial district. The 39.23-acre site is located on the extreme southwestern portion of Quail Ridge, and the applicant plans seven outparcels and a 2.23-acre big-box retail center. The development would include about 293,400 square feet of commercial space. The outparcels "might consist of two convenience stores with retail gasoline, a bank, a mid-size retailer such as a Super Target, two or more restaurants, a drive-through cleaners, neighborhood health care facility and neighborhood retail," according to the report.

They have currently began construction on I-75/475 split and it is being reworked on a much larger scale

Northwest Macon Developments "Oppus-Shoppes of Macon"........

And this does include DT developments or all the road projects.....

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Old 04-18-2009, 08:21 PM
 
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Well first of all where is you links where the cost of stated.... no link yet.... never mind i will look it up my self...

Well according to article its 800 mill not quite 1 billion...
Ambling Companies
But I'm not sure of the total cost of the Providence Community project But i'm sure it's more because not only does it includes huge Commercial and up scale Retail; but loft apartments and multi -sub divisions, town homes and single family housing.....
I 'm sure the town homes and single family homes start are starting in 250-350K or more each..........

From the pics in the yellow outlines the 4 phases of the commercial and retail, and the Amphitheater, multiple subdivisions and town homes are surrounding the retail/commercial projects.


The Red out line other big project in north Macon as well.Like the 450,000 sq ft. North winds (commercial/retail), (600,000 sq ft)Market place at Bass and (350,000 sq ft) Lull water village( retail) and the newly complete 800,000 sq ft. "Shoppes at River Crossing (new-open air mall) completed March 2008.....
www.shoppesatrivercrossing.com

South Macon
http://www.moonfamilyproperties.com/...alescharts.gif

And let not talk about the South Macon/bibb county developments........(Hartley station)Yet another Lifestyle/"Strip Center" is under construction in South Macon just off of I-75 South on Hartley Bridge Road. Moon Family Properties is behind this 1.1 million sqft project. It will include 1,700 single family units, two to four story condos, and apartment community, retail, dinning, a midrise hotel, and office space. The development will be on both sides of Hartley Bridge Rd. http://www.sofrangroup.com/pdf/Macon...%20Station.pdf
Columbus-based company wants to turn about 1,100 acres of undeveloped land into a $490 million mega-development in south Bibb County
.

The 700 block of Houston Road would be rezoned from agricultural to a planned development commercial district. The 39.23-acre site is located on the extreme southwestern portion of Quail Ridge, and the applicant plans seven outparcels and a 2.23-acre big-box retail center. The development would include about 293,400 square feet of commercial space. The outparcels "might consist of two convenience stores with retail gasoline, a bank, a mid-size retailer such as a Super Target, two or more restaurants, a drive-through cleaners, neighborhood health care facility and neighborhood retail," according to the report.

They have currently began construction on I-75/475 split and it is being reworked on a much larger scale

Northwest Macon Developments "Oppus-Shoppes of Macon"........
Enjoy. Savannah Adds to the Master Plan of 1733 - New York Times
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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I'm done trying to prove facts to someone who is unwilling to listen. Just let newtown be. We all know how much more Savannah is recognized over Macon. With that, I'm done.
I never said that Macon was recognized mored than Savannah, dispute was that Savannah had more construction and growth than Macon..... Of course Savannah will have more recogination because its one the oldest cities in the US and it in most of the history books. I'm glad you done.....
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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thats still does not prove you point, you have yet to provide any information that proves Savannah is out pacing Macon in development, It is clear that Savannah river Landing it still much smaller in size and will cost less than the entire Providence Project.
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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thats still does not prove you point, you have yet to provide any information that proves Savannah is out pacing Macon in development, It is clear that Savannah river Landing it still much smaller in size and will cost less than the entire Providence Project.
You have not provided any link to the cost of Providence and I don't believe it will cost half as much as Savannah River Landing. The Ritz Carlton that is going to be built at the River Landing will probaly cost as much as the entire Providence project.
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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Also here are some of DT Macon projects

Lofts at 425 New St.

Wharf Street Centre-
It would have a four-to five-story building with 180-200 units, swimming pool and parking garage.

Silver’s Building at 450 Third St.
, which was built in the early 1900s as Silver’s Five & Dime.The group plans to create a mixed-use development in the three-story, 47,000-square-foot building with up to 25 lofts on the upper floors and perhaps a combination of lofts and office or retail on the first floor.
Another 22-lofts are being developed in the 500 block of Cherry Street
Developers say downtown Macon still a good spot for growth - Local & State - Macon (http://www.macon.com/198/story/567378.html - broken link)

A downtown project involving the reuse of the old Capricorn Recording Studios and Macon Rescue Mission to build a hotel, townhomes, a shopping complex downtown and a 4.2 acre complex housing the museum and will also have an 85 room hotel.
13WMAZ.com | Macon, GA | Capricorn Museum Announced
Capricorn Centre project announced

DT Convention center Marriott Hotel-opens Oct 2009






[SIZE=4]Beall’s Hill Revitalization Project the largest project of this kind outside Atlanta....[/SIZE]
http://www.asg-architects.com/expertise/town/beallshill/index.htm (broken link)
http://www2.mercer.edu/CommunityEnga...BeallsHill.htm

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Old 04-18-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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Also here are some of DT Macon projects

Lofts at 425 New St.

Wharf Street Centre-
It would have a four-to five-story building with 180-200 units, swimming pool and parking garage.

Silver’s Building at 450 Third St.
, which was built in the early 1900s as Silver’s Five & Dime.The group plans to create a mixed-use development in the three-story, 47,000-square-foot building with up to 25 lofts on the upper floors and perhaps a combination of lofts and office or retail on the first floor.
Another 22-lofts are being developed in the 500 block of Cherry Street
Developers say downtown Macon still a good spot for growth - Local & State - Macon (http://www.macon.com/198/story/567378.html - broken link)

A downtown project involving the reuse of the old Capricorn Recording Studios and Macon Rescue Mission to build a hotel, townhomes, a shopping complex downtown and a 4.2 acre complex housing the museum and will also have an 85 room hotel.
13WMAZ.com | Macon, GA | Capricorn Museum Announced
Capricorn Centre project announced

DT Convention center Marriott Hotel-opens Oct 2009








It would take me about an hour to list all the downtown Savannah Projects going on right now. Hotel projects like you posted have been going up by the dozens for years now in Savannah.

It will take about a decade of upscale projects like you are posting in Macon to catch up with what Savannah GA has to offer. I am very familiar with both cities.
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:56 PM
 
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It would take me about an hour to list all the downtown Savannah Projects going on right now. Hotel projects like you posted have been going up by the dozens for years now in Savannah.

It will take about a decade of upscale projects like you are posting in Macon to catch up with what Savannah GA has to offer. I am very familiar with both cities.
Hotels have been going up all over Macon for years As well...You said "it will take about a decade of upscale projects like you are posting in Macon to catch up with what Savannah GA has to offer" well No one has yet to prove that and until that i stand confirmed......
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