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Old 12-24-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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The more purple Georgia becomes the less likely it will be removed. Look at CA, NY and IL.
That is a good point that it seems that Georgia's state income tax is less likely to be eliminated as the state trends more 'purple' towards possible parity between Republicans (who have controlled GA state government since 2005 and who effectively held legislative supermajorities from 2013 to 2018) and Democrats (who have been in a deep minority position in GA state government since 2005) in the not-too-terribly-distant future.

The Republicans who control GA state government and politics have had since at least 2005 (when the GOP achieved a "trifecta" in GA state government by gaining control of both chambers of the GA Legislature and the Governor's office) to repeal the state's income tax.

It just does not seem like the GA government GOP majority has been truly seriously interested in repealing the state's income tax because they do not want to give up a tax that continues to be a significant source of revenue.

Also, even with Georgia's demographics appearing to push the state towards what potentially looks to be increased Democratic Party parity in GA state government (or towards true 'purple'/swing-state status), it is not clear that Georgia will ever become quite as 'blue' as Democratic Party-dominated states like California, New York and Illinois.

While it is undeniable that Georgia's changing demographics (where racial and ethnic minorities made up almost 48% of the state's population as of 2018) do appear to be pushing Democrats towards eventual parity with the GOP majority in GA state government, GA Democrats appear to still have a pretty high bar to clear before achieving even a status of parity, much less majority control because the GA GOP still has trifecta control of GA state government and still has control over redistricting and a continued advantage in state legislative and congressional races until at least after the 2030 census.

To be clear, Democratic majority control of the Georgia state Legislature is not completely out of the realm of possibility (especially in GA state House of Representatives and potentially maybe in the administrative branch in the 2022 and 2026 gubernatorial races). But not having control (or even much of a say) in the redistricting process in 2021 appears to make winning a majorities in the GA Legislature (particularly in GA Senate) a challenge before about 2032.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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That is a good point that it seems that Georgia's state income tax is less likely to be eliminated as the state trends more 'purple' towards possible parity between Republicans (who have controlled GA state government since 2005 and who effectively held legislative supermajorities from 2013 to 2018) and Democrats (who have been in a deep minority position in GA state government since 2005) in the not-too-terribly-distant future.

The Republicans who control GA state government and politics have had since at least 2005 (when the GOP achieved a "trifecta" in GA state government by gaining control of both chambers of the GA Legislature and the Governor's office) to repeal the state's income tax.

It just does not seem like the GA government GOP majority has been truly seriously interested in repealing the state's income tax because they do not want to give up a tax that continues to be a significant source of revenue.

Also, even with Georgia's demographics appearing to push the state towards what potentially looks to be increased Democratic Party parity in GA state government (or towards true 'purple'/swing-state status), it is not clear that Georgia will ever become quite as 'blue' as Democratic Party-dominated states like California, New York and Illinois.

While it is undeniable that Georgia's changing demographics (where racial and ethnic minorities made up almost 48% of the state's population as of 2018) do appear to be pushing Democrats towards eventual parity with the GOP majority in GA state government, GA Democrats appear to still have a pretty high bar to clear before achieving even a status of parity, much less majority control because the GA GOP still has trifecta control of GA state government and still has control over redistricting and a continued advantage in state legislative and congressional races until at least after the 2030 census.

To be clear, Democratic majority control of the Georgia state Legislature is not completely out of the realm of possibility (especially in GA state House of Representatives and potentially maybe in the administrative branch in the 2022 and 2026 gubernatorial races). But not having control (or even much of a say) in the redistricting process in 2021 appears to make winning a majorities in the GA Legislature (particularly in GA Senate) a challenge before about 2032.
Excellent perspective. Regardless of ethnic demographics my hope is that GA continues to be business-friendly and not like NY or CA. Georgia doesn’t have the same “draw” as NYC or LA.
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Old 12-25-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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He is definitely helping to keep Georgia at the top for doing business. Definitely doing some good things. My hope is that the state income tax goes away one day.
I will fight against this until I die. That 5.75% isn’t hurting anyone and if it is, Texas, Florida, and Tennessee will be happy to have those that it does.
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Old 12-25-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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I will fight against this until I die. That 5.75% isn’t hurting anyone and if it is, Texas, Florida, and Tennessee will be happy to have those that it does.
So you like paying taxes while states that we compete directly with have done away with it? It’s a major reason people choose to retire in these states. It would be a huge boost economically if Georgia repealed it.
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Old 12-25-2019, 06:19 PM
 
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Excellent perspective. Regardless of ethnic demographics my hope is that GA continues to be business-friendly and not like NY or CA. Georgia doesn’t have the same “draw” as NYC or LA.
That is an excellent point that a state like Georgia does not have the same type of draw as states like New York and California... Which are heavily-populated coastal states with long-established very-large major metro regions like NYC (in NY) and LA and the Bay Area (in CA).

But with the massive investments that it has made in a world-leading facility like Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, the municipal government of a city like Atlanta has done an exceedingly great job of significantly raising the profile of a state like Georgia.

The very forward-thinking Atlanta city government making such massive public investments in commercial air travel very early on in the 'Jet Age' in the 20th Century has helped a state like Georgia to take very full advantage of its very favorable location as a state that is located very near the geographical center of the Southeastern U.S. that touches the Atlantic Ocean (technically a "coastal" state) and is part of the larger American Sun Belt.

With both California and New York continuing to become exceedingly expensive to live in, Georgia has been able to take full advantage of that situation by becoming a 'spillover' state in which both residents and businesses of higher-profile states like CA and NY flee to (sometimes in droves) in order to escape higher living and business costs.

I also think that you do not have to worry about Georgia becoming too business-unfriendly in the foreseeable future.

That is because even the Democrats are very business-friendly in a state like Georgia.

Heck, the Democrats who have run the City of Atlanta for decades (who are very progressive by Georgia and Southeastern standards) have been so business-friendly to the point of often being accused of being too close to the business/corporate community... That is especially when it comes to the very close relationship that urban Democrats in Atlanta and Fulton County have had with developers over the last 4-5 decades that they have controlled local governance in those jurisdictions.

If Democrats were to ever take over Georgia state government, they likely would continue the long bipartisan GA political tradition of being very friendly (if not exceedingly friendly) with business and corporate interests.
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