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Old 01-18-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by markjames68 View Post
If you’re referring to Kemp that was 2018. And it’s not uncommon for a sitting Secretary of State to run for governor.
Is it common for that Secretary of State to push for massive removal of people from voting lists prior, or for large numbers of polling stations to be shut down or change hours prior to the election, under direction of said SoS?

Do you believe Kemp was honest and transparent during this process?
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Old 01-18-2020, 10:13 AM
 
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Regarding the FBI, it sounds fishy because it's not true.
The web server was taken down and delivered to the FBI. Here's a link from 2017:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/f/...d-effad7b00001
It says
"On March 30th , KSU employees (President Olens, CIO, AVP Strategic Communications, Legal Counsel,
CISO, CES Representatives) met with the FBI and US Attorney's Office regarding the outcome of the
Federal Investigation. Chad Hunt shared that the investigation had yielded no data that "escalates to the
point of breach". "

Here is an article has a much better analysis and level of detail.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...16-vote-100334
What Logan Lamb described seeing (a user account named ShellShock) is something a beginner-level analysis should have spotted.
Whoever in the FBI examined the server back in 2014 failed to do his job or lied about what he found.


By-the-way, here is the suit that we are talking about filed against Kemp and the State of Georgia that was filed back in 2017:
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...40678-1-2.html
It has a good bit of detail. I used to be a systems administrator and had web servers as part of my duties. I was astonished and horrified at what I read about the election center.

What makes me angry is that the state fought for years to prevent access to the forensic copy of the server. There is no reason for that other than evil people being evil.
It's so dangerous for these matters to be kept silent and there does seem to be some sort of cover-up. Why prevent access to the forensic copy of the server? These things should be transparent.


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I agree that is very bad press for the state that they were preventing the copy from getting out.

Also, Secretary of States run but don't stay in office through the voting process, at best it shows he has zero respect for the state and the voters. This isn't Putin's Russia or any other fascist government for that matter. His win will always be mared by the fact he oversaw his own election, that isn't done in this country.
Right! It may not be uncommon for SOS's to run but usually they leave office before officially running.


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Is it common for that Secretary of State to push for massive removal of people from voting lists prior, or for large numbers of polling stations to be shut down or change hours prior to the election, under direction of said SoS?

Do you believe Kemp was honest and transparent during this process?
I would think not.
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:13 PM
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Is it common for that Secretary of State to push for massive removal of people from voting lists prior, or for large numbers of polling stations to be shut down or change hours prior to the election, under direction of said SoS?

Do you believe Kemp was honest and transparent during this process?
Its required by federal law to purge the voter lists. Since lawsuits had delayed Georgia following the law, there were more than normal purged. Georgia actually still has an unusually high number of registered voters relative to population, indicating there are still a lot of invalid registrations.

Polling stations were not shut down or changed hours before the election. And those changes are decided by the local county governments, not the secretary of state.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Its required by federal law to purge the voter lists. Since lawsuits had delayed Georgia following the law, there were more than normal purged. Georgia actually still has an unusually high number of registered voters relative to population, indicating there are still a lot of invalid registrations.

Polling stations were not shut down or changed hours before the election. And those changes are decided by the local county governments, not the secretary of state.
And local precincts are presided over by bipartisan committees.

Your facts don’t fit the narrative though.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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If only the application & administration of voter purges were always as straight forward and simple an issue as has been claimed here.
To pretend that it is always done in a completely above-board manner & with pure intentions is being disingenuous.


Here's a radio piece that gives some context to the arguments that go both ways.


https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/79031...stration-rolls
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:24 AM
 
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If only the application & administration of voter purges were always as straight forward and simple an issue as has been claimed here.
To pretend that it is always done in a completely above-board manner & with pure intentions is being disingenuous.


Here's a radio piece that gives some context to the arguments that go both ways.


https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/79031...stration-rolls
I’m sure it’s not straightforward and pure. But at the same time if you only listened to Stacey Abrams you’d think it was a massive conspiracy run by the Republicans.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Venice, FL
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Its required by federal law to purge the voter lists. Since lawsuits had delayed Georgia following the law, there were more than normal purged. Georgia actually still has an unusually high number of registered voters relative to population, indicating there are still a lot of invalid registrations.

Polling stations were not shut down or changed hours before the election. And those changes are decided by the local county governments, not the secretary of state.
Nice post above! Additionally, the forensic files at KSU not being released might be dictted by law. there may be voter privacy laws that prevents this information from being relayed to any 3rd party, even the fedeal government. There may be limitations we are unaware of, so let's not jump to conclusions.
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