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Old 02-25-2020, 06:32 AM
 
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They've done their time behind bars and been on good behavior since their release, but advocates say some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons are still shackled by their past deeds.

While the state's unemployment rate is around 3.4%, the unemployment rate for residents with criminal records is close to 15%, according to Douglas Ammar, the executive director of the non-profit group the Georgia Justice Project..."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-le...l_twitter_abcn

SOURCE: ABC News
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Buckhead Atlanta
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A good positive step for the state of Georgia.
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Old 02-25-2020, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Default Georgia legisltation...

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They've done their time behind bars and been on good behavior since their release, but advocates say some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons are still shackled by their past deeds.

While the state's unemployment rate is around 3.4%, the unemployment rate for residents with criminal records is close to 15%, according to Douglas Ammar, the executive director of the non-profit group the Georgia Justice Project..."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-le...l_twitter_abcn

SOURCE: ABC News

This would be an excellent step forward for Georgia to take! And it would really set us far out front of the recent move the Florida legislature made that mandated that felons there would be saddled with paying the court costs of their criminal cases before they were fully reinstated with their rights such as in terms of voting.

That Florida move smacks of a poll tax sort of thing & I'm ashamed of that state as a result.

One quibble here though: In the op's post, it is said that out of the current Georgia population of approximately 10.1 million, "...some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons..." . That would denote that something like 42% of the state population are felons. And that sounds wildly off the mark.
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Old 02-26-2020, 10:53 AM
 
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The newest update is that it has a 5% chance of passing. This wouldn't pass in a state without strong democratic representation in all elements of state government. I suspect when we edge closer to that it'll be a better possibility. My reference here: https://legislativenavigator.ajc.com/#bills/HB/528 It's stuck in 2019; is there a different bill and #?

It's stuck at Second Readers (there's also HB 624 that's much earlier). Sort of tricky how ABC is raising awareness about it–we're really close to the day it needs to be attached to something to make some headway.
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:24 AM
 
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4.2 million? Bull.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:50 PM
 
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They've done their time behind bars and been on good behavior since their release, but advocates say some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons are still shackled by their past deeds.

While the state's unemployment rate is around 3.4%, the unemployment rate for residents with criminal records is close to 15%, according to Douglas Ammar, the executive director of the non-profit group the Georgia Justice Project..."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-le...l_twitter_abcn

SOURCE: ABC News
This is a step in the right direction. It's just unbelievable, however, how backwards our society is regarding criminal justice reform. I mean five years after a non-violent felony...that's still a VERY long time. Can you imagine having a record for that long?


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This would be an excellent step forward for Georgia to take! And it would really set us far out front of the recent move the Florida legislature made that mandated that felons there would be saddled with paying the court costs of their criminal cases before they were fully reinstated with their rights such as in terms of voting.

That Florida move smacks of a poll tax sort of thing & I'm ashamed of that state as a result.

One quibble here though: In the op's post, it is said that out of the current Georgia population of approximately 10.1 million, "...some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons..." . That would denote that something like 42% of the state population are felons. And that sounds wildly off the mark.

The OP made a little mistake. I do believe the 4.2 number is not wildly off the mark for felons AND misdemeanors. Perhaps the OP accidentally forgot to include the latter. The article did say that 40 per cent of Georgians have been convicted of a misdemeanor or felony.


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The newest update is that it has a 5% chance of passing. This wouldn't pass in a state without strong democratic representation in all elements of state government. I suspect when we edge closer to that it'll be a better possibility. My reference here: https://legislativenavigator.ajc.com/#bills/HB/528 It's stuck in 2019; is there a different bill and #?

It's stuck at Second Readers (there's also HB 624 that's much earlier). Sort of tricky how ABC is raising awareness about it–we're really close to the day it needs to be attached to something to make some headway.
Really sad to hear that it only has a 5% chance of passing. I mean this legislation isn't all that in the first place.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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They've done their time behind bars and been on good behavior since their release, but advocates say some of Georgia's 4.2 million former felons are still shackled by their past deeds.

While the state's unemployment rate is around 3.4%, the unemployment rate for residents with criminal records is close to 15%, according to Douglas Ammar, the executive director of the non-profit group the Georgia Justice Project..."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-le...l_twitter_abcn

SOURCE: ABC News
Excellent plan. A major obstacle for people who have done their time to getting back on their feet and staying clean is being able to find gainful employment.

There is no reason to oppose this plan other than fear.
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Old 03-02-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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Excellent plan. A major obstacle for people who have done their time to getting back on their feet and staying clean is being able to find gainful employment.

There is no reason to oppose this plan other than fear.

Good point. It's actually THE obstacle. Those who find gainful employment tend to avoid the "revolving doors."
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:48 AM
 
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I believe that All former convicts that have completed their sentences have paid their debt to society and deserve to have their records expunged and all their rights restored.
They should be given the opportunity to re-enter as a contributing member of society.
Restricting former felons seems to force them back to a criminal lifestyle in order to survive. Also seems to increase the chance that those that depend on them, such as their children, are likely to live in poverty thus are also likely to turn to crime to survive.
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Old 04-17-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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I believe that All former convicts that have completed their sentences have paid their debt to society and deserve to have their records expunged and all their rights restored.
They should be given the opportunity to re-enter as a contributing member of society.
Restricting former felons seems to force them back to a criminal lifestyle in order to survive. Also seems to increase the chance that those that depend on them, such as their children, are likely to live in poverty thus are also likely to turn to crime to survive.
ALL?

So if someone commits murder, but due a procedural technicality it gets bumped down to manslaughter and they serve 10 years all should be forgiven?

I don’t have an issue with drug possession and petty crimes being expunged after a period of time (say 5 years after completion of sentence with no criminal recurrence) but violent felonies isn’t something I’d be comfortable with expunging.
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