01-18-2007, 09:25 AM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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tiffani
All the good things you mentioned about Georgia are true. As a newcomer, I've noticed them first hand. Unfortunately, the traffic isn't one of them.
The good thing I hear about San Antonio is that it's a great place for folks who want to scale down their living expenses, i.e, sell their house in California and buy a mini-mansion in SA. There's certainly some of that here in GA, too. In my view, you can't go wrong with either. But I will say that Atlanta has a much stronger and diversified economy.
As far as Gwinnett County, most newcomers are settling in there more than many other areas. Affordability and proximity to downtown are the biggest draws. There are everyday people from all walks of life, and people tend to get along pretty well. I'm not sure about the racial tensions you've heard about, but suffice it to say that you can find such tensions in SA as sure as you can find them here. I wouldn't worry about that at all. People are way too busy enjoying life.
Being a native Californian, I'd pick GA. It's a much more attractive place, with a stronger economy. And with more and more good people from other parts of the country moving here, the social environment is getting refreshed and invigorated like never before.
Best wishes.
01-18-2007, 09:45 AM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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At this point I don't know what to think. I'm looking for some honest thoughts and opinions from those who currently live in the Gwinnett County area. Tell me why I should come to Georgia, surely there are good things that even the biggest pessimist can admit to. Heck, tell me why I shouldn't too!
I live in Cobb County, not Gwinnett, but keep in mind that a "county" is a fairly large place which can be quite diverse itself. Each town and unincorporated community in the county might have a different flavor, and things like crime and house spacing can vary tremendously even within a few blocks (different housing subdivisions are often VERY different from each other even though they might be side by side).
I'm basing this on my experience with Cobb County -- Acworth is quite different from Vinings, Marietta, or Douglasville, and yet all of those places are part of Cobb.
I moved to Georgia from Minnesota, and I love it here. There are a few bad things, but that's to be expected, and I think the positives outweight the negatives for us at this point. Others might have different opinions.
01-21-2007, 08:22 PM
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My family of five moved to Gwinnett County a few years ago. We found it very welcoming. We love the schools (Mill Creek Cluster). Yes, they are big, but class sizes are not. We have EXCELLENT teachers and the curriculum is wonderful. Parents are very involved in the schools. Anything you need is close at hand. Mall of Georgia is close. Housing, Taxes, etc. are reasonable. The traffic can be bad, but once you learn your way around, you can find less congested routes and you just allow for it. The weather is wonderful. Hope that helps.
01-22-2007, 09:00 AM
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Thanks so much for all the replies! Looks like we're Georgia bound in April!!!!!
02-03-2007, 10:52 PM
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fooner..i can relate with u. i have been here in s fl for 27 yrs ..im ready for a change. i visited ga many times and noticed the friendliness in people that i have never seen here in s fl. i just never noticed b/c i live here. i know it will be different in ga, more land, cheaper GAS, cheaper living period!
02-05-2007, 01:00 PM
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Gwinnett ain't so bad...
tiffani,
I've lived in Gwinnett County for almost 5 years now. However, I live near the southewestern point of the county, and go years between seeing some of the northernmost points of the county. In other words, I tend to gravitate closer to the city for work and play.
While I don't have any children, I do know that Gwinnett County high schools (along with other metro Atlanta schools, as pointed out by another poster just a little earlier) have become a feeder system for UGA. The HOPE scholarship does have much to do with that, but there's other factors at play, as well. I live right around the corner from Parkview High in Lilburn, a school that has a great academic and atheltic reputation.
The parks here are very nice, at least compared to the area I previously lived in Florida. Gwinnett Co. has a decent variety of parks, accomodating everything from skateboarding to nature walks to roller hockey.
Traffic here can be a bit of a problem, and much like many of the Atlanta suburbs, the area isn't pedestrian- or bicycle-friendly. I grew up in South Florida and had easy walking or biking access to nearby towns. In Gwinnett, you need to drive to get practically anywhere. And, at times, that can be unpleasant due to backed-up roads.
As for Bible-thumpers and other closed-minded sorts...it exists on some level, but not any worse than most areas of this size, I don't think. Please ignore any and all stories about the local woman trying to ban Harry Potter from public schools' libraries. :-)
02-09-2007, 06:33 PM
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One of the best school districts in the metro area is Fayette County. It might be a bit more than you want to pay though. But you should definitely check it out. The congestion will be A LOT less than Gwinnett.
02-11-2007, 01:08 PM
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Interesting comments! I am a native Floridian and I feel completely at home here in Blairsville, Georgia. I have felt at home here since the very first day that I visited. It feels like I have stepped back in time to the good old days before Florida was ruined by Disney and northerners who didn't appreciate our southern hospitality and small town ways. Florida was a magnificent place to grow up in way back when.
People respected nature, roads were built around huge oak trees rather than tearing them down and there was no litter to be seen anywhere. (sigh)
I just pray that my new home state of Georgia can be saved from the fate of Florida!
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02-11-2007, 11:49 PM
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I've also read a lot of current Gwinnett County residents complaining about it not being all it's cracked up to be. I've heard 1) the people are rude, 2) you have to be a bible thumper, and 3) racial tension is high.
I get so tired of this, and offended, here's my address to your comments...
1) Lets see here, the majority of Gwinett residents are transplants, not from the South, therefore if there is a 'rudeness' perception, which I don't believe, it's due to them and how they were raised, not b/c it's the South
2) I love this, when people refer to 'bible thumper' they're either referring to evangalist or the perception people have of 'Souther Baptists'. How the Hell does someone know if you're a 'Bible Thumper' or not? I'm Catholic btw, born and raised in Cobb, no problems
3) This is the best! Yes we're all KKK members! ONLY 8,000 members nationwide but we all live in Georgia! LOL!!!!! There's no racial tension, the only tension there is right now is "Illegal Aliens". It's only been around for a couple years and it's b/c the influx has been so great in the last couple of years.
Main reason, having 8 cars parked in the middle of your next door neighbors yard, killing your home value. Paying taxes to support others who do not. Healthcare going up b/c others don't pay. Rise in crime. I honestly don't think people would care if they paid taxes and were responsible, if they got citizenship the correct way.
Thousands of Indians/Muslims/Asians work and live in Atlanta legally, on Visas, get citizenship eventually, no one ******* about them, well, except for people like me, software programmers. Not all, but the mass vajority of them don't obide by the rules/laws. People get tired of having to press '1' but they love cheap labor.
02-12-2007, 06:44 AM
Location: Somewhere out there !
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We are deciding between Gwinnett/Hall County Georgia and San Antonio, Texas. I've visited the area (GA, not TX) in July. It seemed pretty nice, but I was taken aback by how close together the houses are, and was warned about the terrible traffic, although I didn't witness any. We visited on the weekend when you typically wouldn't see traffic anyways.
Georgia was very green, very hilly (not so good, I get motion sickness in the car) and overall, very pretty. The shopping was great, and I've heard good things about the schools.
I've also read a lot of current Gwinnett County residents complaining about it not being all it's cracked up to be. I've heard the people are rude, you have to be a bible thumper, and racial tension is high.
At this point I don't know what to think. I'm looking for some honest thoughts and opinions from those who currently live in the Gwinnett County area. Tell me why I should come to Georgia, surely there are good things that even the biggest pessimist can admit to. Heck, tell me why I shouldn't too!
Moving is expensive, so I want to make the right decision.
Thank you so much for any advice/input you have to offer.
If it matters, we have 4 small children, so schools and the HOPE Scholarship are BIG deals to us. We are a middle class family just looking for a good place to raise the kids. If Georgia is not that place, I'd really like to figure that out now, before we go through the hassle.
Well what did people tell your about the area? We are looking to move there too and heard pretty much the same things...
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)