07-22-2008, 09:12 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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Hello everyone!
I currently live in Madison, WI and am looking to relocate to someplace where it isn't a cold, dark, barren waste land from November until late April. I love everything about Madison except for the winter weather which includes the sun setting at 4pm for months on end.
I checked out Austin and I really don't think I'm ready to live in such a big metro area. Plus, to live in town would be pretty cost prohibitive and I don't really want to live in a suburb if I can help it.
So... What is the price range for a starter home in Athens?
What I live in now and my ideal couldn't be further apart.
Right now I live in a smaller home that I have fixed up nicely, but it is in a vinyl village and every third house literally has the same floor plan. The builder is not know for it's great quality and after 11 years there are problems with nail pops in the drywall, the windows leak and so forth. My house is assessed at 197K.
What I'd LOVE is a nice little Craftsman bungalow in move in condition (remember this is the ideal). Around here that would run me about $275-$350K, maybe more.
I'm interested in finding out from people who have lived in both places how the two compare overall as well.
Thank you so much!
Megan
07-22-2008, 09:45 PM
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You should find exactly what you are looking for in Athens.. it will remind you of a smaller version of Madison (sans the two lakes)..but witha much more temperate winter. YOu should be to find the type of house you are looking for in your price range in the Normaltown area.
07-23-2008, 06:58 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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Thank you for the reply! I had a feeling they are similar towns, I appreciate the confirmation. I'll trade the lakes for a more temperate climate, but the lakes are really special, no doubt about it.
Did I mention $275-350 was not in my price range?
That's just what it would cost me to buy a little craftsman bungalow here. Could anyone tell me what a house like that costs in the Athen's area?
07-23-2008, 07:07 PM
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a small bungalow in Athens' normaltown neighborhood is considerably cheaper.. Find a little fixer upper and you will save a lot of money.
07-23-2008, 07:08 PM
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I have lived in MAdison, WI for 5 years and moved back south and so I know the differences. I am a native Georgian and went to school at UGA. BOTH places are fanatically school cheerleaders. Why not? BOTH GREAT SCHOOLS!!! Athens is hotter for a longer period of the year and Madison is colder for a better part of the year. The terrain is different but beautiful in both cases. I do miss those GREAT lakes. Both towns have diversity in thought and people, although while in WI I laughed when people up there thought there were alot of people of color in Madison!!! I missed the real diversity we have down here. There are bigots everywhere, here and up there. YEP!!!! I never knew anybody who ate squirrel or road kill until I met someone from the river area of SW WI. Gardening is different because of climate. We have pansies here during the winter, not summer. Athens has alot of culture associated with the university, along with a great music scene and artists around the area. Being close to Atlanta there is another scene to tap into. Both are great towns. I do think you can do better in housing down here. I remember being shocked at having vinyl on the house when I moved up there. Here depending on age, it would probably be brick or hardiplank. Nevertheless, each town is good and you can be happy in both. HOWEVER, you would love our winter days in the 40s and 50s -- down here that is COLD - picnic weather up in Wisconsin!!!!
07-23-2008, 07:11 PM
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PS I hate to admit it but people in general are friendlier down here. More courtesy too. I attributed it to all the cold and it makes you grumpy. By March I was crazy - buying flowers at the market just to see color. Here my bulbs are up in February and I have something blooming even in winter and we have green bushes all year too like camellias that bloom in January and February.
07-23-2008, 07:47 PM
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I think that in Athens, you will have more neighborhoods that have an "inner city" feel (poverty and crime). Never been to Madison, but I think there will be more neighborhoods that you will want to avoid in Athens, generally.
However, I think as long as you are spending $170,000-$200,000, you will be in a very acceptable neighborhood. Avoid neighborhoods in the $100,000-$120,000 range, which generally speaks of the quality of the neighborhood (cars parked in the street along the curbing and sometimes junk cars littering the lawn, and people wandering the streets at dusk, like vampires) as well as the quality of the construction.
If you need a rental to have more time to house-shop, there are plenty of condos and villa areas that are very nice, as you would expect in a university town.
Athens does not have a drum and bugle corp, btw. The Scouts have ALWAYS been my very favorite.
07-23-2008, 08:00 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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you would love our winter days in the 40s and 50s -- down here that is COLD - picnic weather up in Wisconsin!!!!
We break out the shorts when it hits 50 - okay, maybe 60, but no kidding.
07-23-2008, 08:02 PM
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and we have green bushes all year too like camellias that bloom in January and February.
Really, green? ALL year long? <whistful sigh!> Sound heavenly.
07-23-2008, 08:06 PM
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PS I hate to admit it but people in general are friendlier down here. More courtesy too. I attributed it to all the cold and it makes you grumpy.
A lot of vitamin D deficiency up here - makes people cranky. Sorry you had a bad experience. I'm glad to hear people in GA are friendly - one more plus for Athens in my book.
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)