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View Poll Results: Which city will lose all of their enclosed malls first?
Athens MSA 1 2.17%
Atlanta MSA 9 19.57%
Augusta MSA 2 4.35%
Brunswrick MSA 3 6.52%
Columbus MSA 9 19.57%
Macon MSA 16 34.78%
Rome MSA 3 6.52%
Savannah MSA 2 4.35%
Valdosta MSA 0 0%
Warner Robins MSA 1 2.17%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-16-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Yeah.. but when malls tend to go towards downscale retailers, thats the beginning of the death spiral.. thats what happened to Regency. These downscale retailers attract an even less desirous crowd.. and this makes the mall less attractive to other more upscale tenants. It also degrades the rent for mall space... these downscale retailers typically cannot pay the hiogher rents that upscale retailers can.. it begins a vicious cycle.
Same thing happened with Greenville. The Shops at Greenridge and especially Haywood Mall killed it: Dead Malls dot Com: Feature: Greenville Mall: Greenville, South Carolina%
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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Just a few of the stores/restaurants that have closed at Macon Mall over the last several months:

Old Navy
B Dalton
Ann Taylor Loft
Dillard
Steve and Barry's
KB Toys
The Limited
Dream Fashions
FYE
The Limited
Lane Bryant
Carlyle &Co
Mori Luggage
Gap
Gap Kids
Eddie Bauer
Ruby Tuesday
Carlton Cards
Time Out Arcade
Man Alive
Starbucks
Starbucks, Oldnavy, Ruby Tuesday, Steve & Berry, KB Toys and Dillards left not because of the Macon's Market these companies closed these stores because they were facing a hardship company wise not because of Macon.

Starbuck had announced closure of the Macon Mall store way before the new center open as well as hundreds of others across the US.

Steve & Berry closed Macon and W.Robins store; KB toys,Steve & Berry and Ruby Tuesday was all facing bankruptcy's they why they closed. Because Ruby Tuesday has just proposed a new restaurants in East Macon in 2008....
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Just a few of the stores/restaurants that have closed at Macon Mall over the last several months:

Old Navy
B Dalton
Ann Taylor Loft
Dillards
Steve and Barry's
KB Toys
The Limited
Dream Fashions
FYE
The Limited
Lane Bryant
Carlyle &Co
Mori Luggage
Gap
Gap Kids
Eddie Bauer
Ruby Tuesday
Carlton Cards
Time Out Arcade
Man Alive
Starbucks

-The biggest problem is that the mall has a negative equity, which is valued at 80% less than it was 3 years ago. Any improvements would have to be paid for in cash. The bank that holds the note for the mall has already lost about 30 million dollars on it.
Wow! I had no idea it had gone down this hard, this fast.

In a couple of years when the economy is back, it will probably be demolished for a new WalMart Super Center. Mark my words.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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Recession started in January 2008 NewtownMacon. Shoppes at River Crossing opened in March 2008. A double edged sword has gone into the heart of the Macon Mall. It's only a matter of time before the mall is doomed for good.
Well but the recession may have started but a lot of retailers didn't feel it under mid to late 2008 come on buddy. The Macon Mall is NOT going to close. I don't care hard to wish it would......
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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That's going to be a big Walmart.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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Wow! I had no idea it had gone down this hard, this fast.

In a couple of years when the economy is back, it will probably be demolished for a new WalMart Super Center. Mark my words.

Not in your life time buddy but keep holding you breath
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Well but the recession may have started but a lot of retailers didn't feel it under mid to late 2008 come on buddy. The Macon Mall is NOT going to close. I don't care hard to wish it would......
Fine, you keep wishing the mall is fine. Go ahead. In a year or two, you'll know what hit. You need something like this in your life: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikespice/3226678454/sizes/l/ (broken link)
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^Middle Georgia can hardly support all this retail.

Macon Mall is on it's way out - I had heard that it was going downhill, but the loss of these type of stores spells the death of that mall as we have known it.

This is still a very valuable piece of land, and it will be repositioned. Probably into a Super WalMart.

Otherwise, it will just change uses into something else - but stick a fork in it. As a regional mall, it's done.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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^Middle Georgia can hardly support all this retail.

Macon Mall is on it's way out - I had heard that it was going downhill, but the loss of these type of stores spells the death of that mall as we have known it.

This is still a very valuable piece of land, and it will be repositioned. Probably into a Super WalMart.

Otherwise, it will just change uses into something else - but stick a fork in it. As a regional mall, it's done.

The Macon regional area will always support the Macon Mall and the new developments coming.....The Macon Mall will NOT be closing and bounce back to it old self a regional center....... Yall are a bunch of Macon Haters.......and there you have it...... you guys get a kick out of bashing Macon, but I'm hear to tell you all are wrong and will soon have a full belly of negative words and comments. Macon will became a huge Hotspot in GA.... comment on that
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Oh and seeing how we're showing pictures of malls, here's Haywood Mall in Greenville:

































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