06-10-2009, 12:59 PM
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Any advise on how to handle reckless driving ticket, son is 18. He was in school parking lot in Cobb County and he had just finished his last class of high school and two of his friends jumped up on his trunk and he drove like 3 feet and then got a reckless driving ticket
Apparently, it took 3 officers about 45 minutes of looking to figure he should get a reckless driving citation. In GA, if convicted, he will lose his license. He is suppose to enter the Air Force, his physical is next week. Any help????????
06-10-2009, 03:57 PM
Location: Cobb County, Georgia
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Will the charge keep him from the Air Force?
06-10-2009, 05:18 PM
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He won't need his license while he's in the Air Force- they'll do all the driving. By the time he gets out, the suspension should be over.
06-10-2009, 08:03 PM
Location: Georgia
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If it won't hurt his going into the Air Force then it isn't such a huge issue. You probably won't like this but: although it is a pretty heavy punishment it also sounds like it is needed. You don't sound that worried, and I'm not giving you a hard time, but I think you should be. He isn't fully assessing risk. THAT IS NORMAL, his risk assessment and cause and effect/consequences skills will not be completely finished maturing until around age 25. I didn't learn this until my husband had to take an enormous amount of education classes. I think this losing of the license may be one of the things your son needs to finish growing up and learning which actions are ok, which aren't, which are dangerous, etc.
06-11-2009, 12:18 AM
Location: sowf jawja
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You probably won't like this but: although it is a pretty heavy punishment it also sounds like it is needed.
Give the kid a break. Sure it was foolish, but who hasn't done something foolish? It was the last day of school; he was excited. I've done worse and turned out fine.
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MoreCowbell
You don't sound that worried, and I'm not giving you a hard time, but I think you should be. He isn't fully assessing risk. THAT IS NORMAL, his risk assessment and cause and effect/consequences skills will not be completely finished maturing until around age 25. I didn't learn this until my husband had to take an enormous amount of education classes.
If its part of normal development, that would mean there's nothing she could do about it; so why be worried? I'm just asking . . . . .
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Now, I know you're thinking what he did wasn't that major, but it could have been. A family friend was riding on the hood of a car in the parking lot at her high school in GA. Something happened and she ended up under the car with it dragging her. It burned her badly, especially her torso. It burned her breasts off, and her legs were very badly injured. Years afterward she had to indure skin grafts and multiple painful surgeries. A video about her story was made and is shown at the high school every year.
People ride on hoods, trunks, etc. . . all the time and don't get hurt. 30k+ people get killed every year on the highway, and they're sitting inside the car.
I'm just saying. . . . he was understandably in a chipper mood, got a wild hair, and was just having a little fun. someone could've got hurt, but they didn't. do you talk on your cell phone while you drive? Do you makeup behind the wheel? These things are equally dangerous.
06-11-2009, 07:36 AM
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The key question is this: Was the vehicle in motion when the kids jumped on the trunk?
06-11-2009, 08:28 AM
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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The key question is this: Was the vehicle in motion when the kids jumped on the trunk?
That's going to be very hard to prove even with witnesses, unless it's on a security video somewhere. Some will say it was moving, others say it was stopped. The way it usually goes. Then they'll question "intent". In other words, did the kids just jump on the car, or was he actually intending to drive around with them on the car for a while, etc etc.
The laws can be strange or not so clear. Another example - if you leave a bar and have been drinking a good bit, and go to your car and get in, and start the engine so you can rest a while and run the A/C... you can at that moment technically be arrested for DUI. It doesn't matter that the car isn't in motion and is "parked" and you had no intention of driving - you got in it and started the engine, so an officer if nearby will say your intention is to drive - and you can (and it's been done) be arrested for DUI.
It's hard (if not impossible) to make teens be on their best behavior when driving, and seemingly an impossible feat for them to utilize a ton of brain power it seems anymore when they're behind a wheel. But, this is one of those "the wrong people were close by at the wrong time" type of events, and it'll be up to the judge as to how they'll view it and treat it. I'd worry less about the license and more about if he has to show up in court at the same time he's supposed to be off to the Air Force. Not sure how that'll work out.
06-13-2009, 07:17 PM
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Call J Tom Morgan, a great attorney who can advise you. He gets really irritated when the police overstep with young people but he will also be brutally honest if the charges are deserved.
Here is his contact info:
About J.Tom Morgan, author of Ignorance is No Defense
And, while your son has entered adulthood, if you have any other children, or anyone else has teenagers, I highly recommend his book:
Ignorance is no defense
06-13-2009, 09:36 PM
Location: Marietta, GA
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he drove like 3 feet and then got a reckless driving ticket
Are you sure that's actually what happened? I'm the parent of teens and understand that sometimes you get a somewhat filtered truth.
Unless you plan to get a lawyer and try to get an acquittal, can he plead nolo or plead guilty to a lesser offense and take a fine? Cobb will play ball with you if you ask and if he's got an otherwise clean record. Either way, let's hope he learned a lesson.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Apparently, it took 3 officers about 45 minutes of looking to figure he should get a reckless driving citation. In GA, if convicted, he will lose his license. He is suppose to enter the Air Force, his physical is next week. Any help????????
