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Old 07-29-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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The Atlanta metro extends much further out in some directions (like northwest along I-75) than it does in others. The metro expansion isn't uniform in all directions.

I've given my opinion, and that's all it is. If people want to consider Carrollton a suburb, it's their problem if it doesn't meet the stereotype for them if they decide to move there on that basis.
Unlike Covington, which you spoke of, I don't consider Carrollton to be a suburb, but technically it is part of metro Atlanta.

I do, however, consider Carrollton to be a satellite city.

The cities of Villa Rica and Temple in north Carroll County, however, are at the very minimum exurbs, given the amount of development in that area. In fact, if it weren't for the fact that extreme west Douglas to its east, such as in the Winston area, is less developed than Villa Rica and Temple area, I'd consider northern Carroll county to be suburban. However, due to the gap between it and the west side of Douglasville, I consider these two towns to be exurban.

With Carrollton, there's a bit of undeveloped area between Carrollton and Douglasville, where the bulk of the built up area of the metro Atlanta area begins, as well as between the built-up area of Villa Rica and Temple with Carrollton. This is why I don't think of Carrollton as not only a suburb, but also an exurb. It's a classic satellite city, in my opinion. Cartersville, on the other hand, shares some of the same characteristics, but is much closer to the built-up area, and it seems to have outlying suburban development to its west, making it both a satellite city and an exurb.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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Unlike Covington, which you spoke of, I don't consider Carrollton to be a suburb, but technically it is part of metro Atlanta.

I do, however, consider Carrollton to be a satellite city.

The cities of Villa Rica and Temple in north Carroll County, however, are at the very minimum exurbs, given the amount of development in that area. In fact, if it weren't for the fact that extreme west Douglas to its east, such as in the Winston area, is less developed than Villa Rica and Temple area, I'd consider northern Carroll county to be suburban. However, due to the gap between it and the west side of Douglasville, I consider these two towns to be exurban.

With Carrollton, there's a bit of undeveloped area between Carrollton and Douglasville, where the bulk of the built up area of the metro Atlanta area begins, as well as between the built-up area of Villa Rica and Temple with Carrollton. This is why I don't think of Carrollton as not only a suburb, but also an exurb. It's a classic satellite city, in my opinion. Cartersville, on the other hand, shares some of the same characteristics, but is much closer to the built-up area, and it seems to have outlying suburban development to its west, making it both a satellite city and an exurb.
What exactly is a satellite city ? And would you consider cities like Rome, Gainesville, and LaGrange satellite cities ?
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:32 AM
 
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What exactly is a satellite city ? And would you consider cities like Rome, Gainesville, and LaGrange satellite cities ?
A satellite city generally refers to a city of moderate size, or larger, that exists within the periphery of a primary city, but is still somewhat detached from it, developmentally, yet attached enough, economically, to be part of the greater region. They also, while having some economic attachment to the principal city, have independent economic features that indicate that they don't solely exist or base their economy around the primary city; they could exist on their own.

Rome is its own metro area, albeit a small one. It does share characteristics of being a satellite city, but has too much independence to be one. Gainesville is its own metro area, but meets the definition for being a satellite city. LaGrange is a micropolitan area, but is a satellite city.

Carrollton and Gainesville are very similar, with regard to economic attachment to Atlanta, although Gainesville is probably slightly more attached. Furthermore, given development patterns, areas around Gainesville, such as in areas in close proximity to the lake, are suburban. This includes Oakwood and Flowery Branch. That is, there is contiguous development from North Gwinnett and the Atlanta built-up area all the way to Gainesville. With Carrollton, you do reach exurban/semi-suburban areas up toward Villa Rica and Temple, but they are detached from Carrollton and Douglasville, the beginning of Atlanta's contiguous built-up area, by miles of relatively undeveloped land.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Unlike Covington, which you spoke of, I don't consider Carrollton to be a suburb, but technically it is part of metro Atlanta.

I do, however, consider Carrollton to be a satellite city.
Yes, that I would agree with. It's close enough to get some indirect benefits from its proximity to the metro.
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:16 PM
 
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Over the next couple of years Cartersville will officially become a suburb and no longer an exurb. There is only about 5 miles separating Cartersville's built up area and Acworth's. And starting next years there are plans to build that 5 miles stretch up with several hotels, restaurants and a major tourist attraction. Yes, there will be no break in development between Downtown Atlanta and Cartersville, but it will still be a satellite city as well. You are dead on about Cartersville's suburban outer areas like its bedroom community of Euharlee. Also, the HWY 20 area between Canton and Cartersville is slowly being developed with residential areas but not commercially but that too will probably change once they finish making it four lanes.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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Carrollton is a backwater hell hole that wants to be a suburb.

I am a senior at UWG. Honestly, these people are mostly right. The best advice is from the person from Douglasville. I also have a job in which I deal with the general public here (I get a good cross section of the whole community) and the way these people behave it sickens me. I know a fellow student that works in fast food and the way she get treated. Let's just say I have never seen people treat a female so cruelly. Meanness for the sake of meanness.

I would like to address the fact that your husband is working at the school. The UWG community IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM CARROLLTON! Student life is lame because everyone gets the hell out for the weekend (it used to be a great social school made the top ten party list at one point). The towns people largely like to ignore the school's existence. Go to Athens or Auburn, the community completely embraces the university. In Carrollton, that's not the case. The people here tend to resent the college if anything because of the imagined ill behavior of some of the students (I am proud to say that my fellow students conduct themselves well in town. It's mostly the children of the carrolltonites that i can't stand. If I get leered at by another white trash teenager in a dirty pink polo shirt with diamond earrings and terrible tattoos I might go crazy) Not to say the students aren't annoying, but we keep it on campus.

I don't understand why a rural town like Carrollton wouldn't completely embrace a WORLD CLASS UNIVERSITY that's on the way up. I do think it says something negative about the population though. This town is the opposite of progressive.

Powder Springs IS A GREAT IDEA. Also, the commute isn't quite as awful because you aren't heading into Atlanta.

Carrollton tries to pass itself off as Mayberry, but it isn't. It's just another GA town that grew way too fast during the housing explosion. The "10 cent" millionaire comment is spot on. You can tell the people here want to act like they live in a suburb.

The above grievances closely match mine so I am not going to get into it. The people that don't keep to themselves tend to be narrow minded and hateful for the most part (except some nice old people). If another person tells me Obama is the Muslim, socialist anti-christ I am going to snap. No sense of community really.

Everyone draws the high school like a gun when defending this place. There are two high schools. The city high school is the "nice" one. Those unfortunate enough to live outside the narrow city limits have to go to Central which is largely neglected (tax issues and such).

As far as the "nice" city school goes, their only real achievements are in athletics. If your kid is average then there is no advantage. Seriously, these people act like the only reason you go to high school is to play football.

The whole Ga School of excellence things is a joke. It's like being the healthiest person with AIDS. GA has a terrible school system to begin with. These little titles they give to certain schools are largely meaningless (sorry not to discredit any admirable educators, but that's how it is).

Sorry to be long winded but that's my summary of Carrollton.
I completely understand what you mean about the disrespect of some of the townspeople...I was in Bath & Body Works Saturday, and a Grown man with Grey in his hair (around 50's) walked in with his wife, the young (probally college student) greeted him very happy and professional...and What? that grown A** man MOCKED her, every time she said something, he said the same trying to mimic her voice. I Just stopped, and stared in disbelief...Here she is, just trying to make a car payment or extra cash, and getting terribly disrespected. I so badly wanted to put him in his place, but as obviously (rude/crazy) as that townsman was I did not want to put myself in harms way. But the manager did, see the whole thing, (and...how could she not?, the entire store could hear him!) But that is just yet another example of ignorance. Sad. But, this just drives me, to work even harder in college to earn my degree; Maybe that ignorant townsman should do the same so that he could get some self-respect.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: West Metro Atlanta
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I completely understand what you mean about the disrespect of some of the townspeople...I was in Bath & Body Works Saturday, and a Grown man with Grey in his hair (around 50's) walked in with his wife, the young (probally college student) greeted him very happy and professional...and What? that grown A** man MOCKED her, every time she said something, he said the same trying to mimic her voice. I Just stopped, and stared in disbelief...Here she is, just trying to make a car payment or extra cash, and getting terribly disrespected. I so badly wanted to put him in his place, but as obviously (rude/crazy) as that townsman was I did not want to put myself in harms way. But the manager did, see the whole thing, (and...how could she not?, the entire store could hear him!) But that is just yet another example of ignorance. Sad. But, this just drives me, to work even harder in college to earn my degree; Maybe that ignorant townsman should do the same so that he could get some self-respect.
Why would something like that make you want to earn a college degree ? What makes you think he didn't have a college degree ? You act like there are no ignorant college educated people. Also, what the heck is a townsman and how do you know this person even lives in Carrollton ?
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