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Old 03-03-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Ann Arbor isn't more diverse than GR. Have you looked at the percentages from the census? (GR - here, AA - here) All in all they're both fairly standard for mid-sized, Midwestern cities. Even suburban Wyoming and Kentwood stack up well against Ann Arbor.

I'm sorry, but all anyone has been saying on these threads is "Meh, GR isn't very diverse" and I think some actual data might help.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think Ann Arbor's (mostly self-defined) image as this cultural and progressive bastion is overrated. Just a personal opinion. It is a really cool town, though, don't get me wrong.

And as for GR's arts, the GR Symphony conducts over 400 performances a year. GR Ballet is the state's only professional ballet company. Opera GR is the only professional company aside from Michigan Opera Theater in Detroit and is actually older. Check out a local show at Actors, Dog Story, or Wealthy St Theaters. Maybe none of this stuff floats your boat, but it's misleading to say all of GR's culture is just Art Prize, Art Prize, Art Prize.

Ann Arbor's diversity resides in Ypsilanti, lol. All of those Asian and Middle Eastern people you see around AA are there to attend UofM and then they leave shortly after graduating.

I actually think ArtPrize doesn't at all highlight Grand Rapids artistic culture, as most of the artists who enter are from out of town and most of the good local artists have begun to bow out of the competition (or boycott it). ArtPeers, Avenue for the Arts, Art.Downtown, Site.Lab, Live Coverage and other events are a better showcase of local art.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:06 AM
 
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The problem with overly conservative religious folk is that they feel compelled to push their religion on others, or that everyone in the community should conform to their standards and values. When in fact much of the time, their values and standards are based on a culture that is over 2000 years old, back when people didn't even understand what menstruation was, people of different races couldn't marry, and you could own slaves.

And that is downright intolerable.
Why doesn't the OP just not risk running into conservatives or church going people and move instead to Detroit which is not at all conservative and has all that preferrable diversity? Why even be lured to Grand Rapids where he could risk meeting someone who doesn't vote for democrats all the time?
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Why doesn't the OP just not risk running into conservatives or church going people and move instead to Detroit which is not at all conservative and has all that preferrable diversity? Why even be lured to Grand Rapids where he could risk meeting someone who doesn't vote for democrats all the time?
I think you're misunderstanding what I was saying. Moving on.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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Hello!

I am looking at a few jobs in Grand Rapids. I don't know much about the area, but from what I've been reading, it appears to be a rather diverse, cultured, medium sized city. I currently live in Chicago, and while I love the cultural advantages of the place, the size and the cost of living have become overwhelming, and I'm ready for a change of scenery.

I grew up in a conservative, religious small town in PA, that was completely void of creative or original thought - so I'm always attempting to avoid that type of place when I consider relocating. Here are some of the things I look for in cities:

Arts Scene: I am a photographer, so a solid arts scene is important. A good art scene also attracts a certain type of person, of which I tend to befriend.
Music Scene: I love going to shows, of all kinds.
Food: I like all kinds of ethnic foods, and access to good local coffee and beer and farmers markets.
Nature This is pretty self explanatory. Grand Rapids is in a beautiful place, so access to being outside will not be a problem! Within the city, are there lots of parks and trails, ect?
Diversity It appears from the demographics that GR is rather diverse.
Progressive thinking I am not one who will move to a place for the sole reason that it is known to be liberal, but I could never live in a predominately conservative community again. Been there, done that. I do understand from a friend who grew up in grand rapids that there is a strong conservative dutch population, but he said overall, it is becoming more open minded.

I'd love to hear thoughts on Grand Rapids and the above stated info I mentioned.

Thanks!
Art Scene: I don't know much about art but there are artistic types. There's the Kendell school of art downtown, which is small but apparently well regarded. Then there's art prize, which started of well but is unfortunately experiencing some turbulence. Is there good art at art prize? yes, is there poor art? YES. The problem with art prize isn't that there's a lot of poorly created art mixed in with the good art, it's that too many mediocre pieces find their way to the finals and some even win. The second year of art prize they boasted that they had people entering from nearly every US state and many other countries (as far away as Japan), but the other year when a simple painting of Jesus won the whole things I think it turned a lot of people off. When something like a painting of Jesus (one that could be identical to any found in any average church) wins an art competition, why would legit artists continue to enter? In result this past years festival did not have near as many people enter and the average quality of art took a turn for the worse. But this is what happens when you have an art competition in the bible belt...

Music Scene: It's pretty good for being a relatively small city. There's a good Folk scene on the rise. Bands like The Crane Wives, the Fauxgrass Quartet, Nicholas James & The Bandwagon, the Turnips, and Big Dudee Roo have vastly improved the music scene. I remember about a decade ago it was basically just mediocre metal. My favorite venue by far is Founders, amazing beer, great atmosphere and they get the best acts of any venue in GR.

Food: There are some good places. Sanchez has great spanish and mediteranian food, XO has great sushi, and Charlies crab has the only decent seafood in the area. The Electric Cheetah and Founders have the best sandwhiches in the area, Ichiban has the best chinese food (but that's way east on 29th Street). There's definitely choices, but it's no culinary mecca by any means. Again, pretty average for its size.

Nature:There are some areas where you can enjoy nature, Blanford nature center for example. And Manistee Forest isn't too far away, but to really find breathtaking nature you'll need to go at least a couple hours north west.

Diversity: For a city this size I'd say it's average.

Progressive Thinking: It's the most liberal place in West Michigan, but that isn't exactly saying much.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Progressive Thinking: Dave Agema
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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eat kielbasa drink beer

All jokes aside Grand Rapids is a great place to live. I've lived in quite a few cities and still miss Grand Rapids.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Progressive Thinking: Dave Agema
This is "progressive" to you? Where are you getting your "news"?
http://www.freep.com/article/2013041...lism-interview

West Michigan tourism requires a measure of tolerance on gay issues, and I don't thing G.R. itself is all that intolerant. But to call this guy "progressive" shows you need some homework.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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This is "progressive" to you? Where are you getting your "news"?
Michigan GOP official Dave Agema likens homosexuality to alcoholism in interview | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

West Michigan tourism requires a measure of tolerance on gay issues, and I don't thing G.R. itself is all that intolerant. But to call this guy "progressive" shows you need some homework.
Clearly my sarcasm was lost on you.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Clearly my sarcasm was lost on you.
Sarcasm is ok, but I don't know you. Plenty of people post this kind of stuff seriously, and I was wondering about it.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Progressive Thinking: Dave Agema
Agema doesn't represent all of West Michigan. Does Kwame represent all of Detroit?
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