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Old 10-15-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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The Buffalo lake front looks at least as nice. There are bed and breakfast places, tons of wineries, restaurants and other tourist attractions.
And you guys get a lot of lake effect snow like we do:





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Old 10-18-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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Big city amenities include:

-A subway/LRT line. Information is below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Metro_Rail

-A park and boulevard system consisting of 6 large parks connected by a new concept in park-planning, parkways. The system was developed from the 1860's - 1890's by Frederick Law Olmsted, the foremost landscape architect and park planner in American History, who designed New York's Central Park, Boston's Emerald Necklace, and Detroit's Belle Isle, among others. Information below:

Olmsted's Buffalo Park System and Its Stewards | Frederick Law Olmsted | PBS

-Have you seen the Buffalo's city hall. The most awesome city hall in the United States:


-2 Professional sports teams, Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres; also a MAC School with Division 1 athletics, the University of Buffalo, within the city limits

-A couple of very dense, vibrant neighborhoods outside of downtown, like Elmwood Village and Allentown.
Allentown

Elmwood Village

The city of Buffalo is on a river (Niagara River) and a Great Lake, Lake Erie. It is 20 miles from one of the great natural wonders of the western hemisphere - Niagara Falls. It's location on an international border and its proximity to the 6-million people Greater Toronto Area (1 hour away) also raises its profile.
There's also Canisius College which is another mid major Division 1 program within the city of Buffalo. You also have Niagara University up the road just north of Niagara Falls that is also Division 1.


In terms of neighborhoods, there's also this area: Hertel Business Association - CONTACT US
HertelAvenue.com - Hertel Avenue Buffalo NY - Stores, Restaurants, Night Clubs, Services, Business
North Buffalo - City of Buffalo - Neighborhoods - Map Collection - University at Buffalo Libraries


https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9476...7i13312!8i6656


What would be similar neighborhoods in GR?

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Old 10-18-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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The largest difference between Grand Rapids and Buffalo is urban area size. Buffalo is the nation's 46th largest urban area, with 936,000 people. Grand Rapids is all the way down at 70 with 570,000. Buffalo's unlucky geography forces it to have a smaller metro than Grand Rapids.
Metro areas are based off of commuter interchange(I believe a county has to have 25% of its workers commute into the central county or something to that effect).
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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There's also Canisius College which is another mid major Division 1 program within the city of Buffalo. You also have Niagara University up the road just north of Niagara Falls that is also Division 1.


In terms of neighborhoods, there's also this area: Hertel Business Association - CONTACT US
HertelAvenue.com - Hertel Avenue Buffalo NY - Stores, Restaurants, Night Clubs, Services, Business
North Buffalo - City of Buffalo - Neighborhoods - Map Collection - University at Buffalo Libraries


https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9476...7i13312!8i6656


What would be similar neighborhoods in GR?
The whole Uptown area, which includes Wealthy Street, East Hills, Eastown, and East Fulton/Midtown:

Map of Area - Uptown Grand Rapids
Home | East Hills Council of Neighbors
http://uptowngr.com/locations/

Bookending the Uptown area is also Heritage Hill and East Grand Rapids.

Heritage Hill Neighborhood Association | Grand Rapids, Michigan

Just South of downtown is the Heartside Historic District.

Heartside in Grand Rapids | Fun Attractions & Dining

Which includes parts of Sheldon, South Division, Commerce and Ionia Avenues.

http://grcity.us/design-and-developm...0Maps_2013.pdf

There's so much growth going on in several other near downtown neighborhoods that it's getting hard to keep up with. Bridge Street on the "West Side" is exploding:

https://mibiz.com/item/23786-documen...0%99-west-side
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...ewings_kn.html
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-m..._west_sid.html

Same with the Creston Neighborhood, Belknap Lookout Neighborhood, Monroe North and the Michigan Street corridor. In Belknap, entire blocks are being leveled for new apartments and GVSU's addition to their health sciences campus.



There are something like 1500 apartments in the works right now, which isn't a lot by say Chicago standards, but it's a lot for a downtown with about a 4000 resident population.

I snagged these from another site where people "try" and keep up with development projects in Grand Rapids. There's a lot more but I can't possibly post it all.




















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Old 10-24-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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This one's a cool shot of a couple of the downtown projects.

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Old 11-12-2016, 07:11 PM
 
Location: 78745
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Grand Rapids seems to be in better shape than most fall line/river manufacturing cities. Its population is actually higher than it was 50 years ago, median income isn't in the tank, and downtown is less bombed out than Fall River, Lowell, Paterson, NJ etc.

Is it because furniture manufacturing didn't get outsourced as quickly and easily as textiles? Something in the Dutch Reformed heritage? Something in the water?

I don't know, but very curious about this.
Thats an easy answer. A real no-brainer...GR didnt decline because it's conservative and Republican. It's Michigan's version of Fort Wayne.
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Thats an easy answer. A real no-brainer...GR didnt decline because it's conservative and Republican. It's Michigan's version of Fort Wayne.

Ft. Wayne of the some of the worst unemployment rates in the country before the Obama administration bailed them out? Great Republican leadership there in the 00s.
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Old 11-12-2016, 09:01 PM
 
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Thats an easy answer. A real no-brainer...GR didnt decline because it's conservative and Republican. It's Michigan's version of Fort Wayne.
Drink much Kool-Aid? That's total BS. Besides, Grand Rapids isn't that Republican...and today's Republican's aren't really that conservative. Being radical isn't being conservative.
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Thats an easy answer. A real no-brainer...GR didnt decline because it's conservative and Republican. It's Michigan's version of Fort Wayne.
Ummm, not necessarily.

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Old 11-13-2016, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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Thats an easy answer. A real no-brainer...GR didnt decline because it's conservative and Republican. It's Michigan's version of Fort Wayne.
Grand Rapids doesn't look or feel anything like Fort Wayne. I don't see how you'd make that assumption unless you've never set foot in GR.
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