U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan > Grand Rapids metro area
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-27-2008, 08:16 AM
 
316 posts, read 1,092,901 times
Reputation: 134

Advertisements

GR better then Chicago? Please. I still wish GR had more diversity in the residents living there. Physically though it is a nice city, I just do not care for the sprawl or attitudes amongst the residents.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-27-2008, 04:10 PM
 
5 posts, read 38,464 times
Reputation: 13
Default Bring out your strawman

I should just let this go, but I cannot.

Quote:
When the honorable Clarence Thomas tells us that affirm. act. made his law degree "not worth the paper it was printed on", you have to question AA's relevance.
That statement always makes me question "honorable" Thomas more than Affirmative Action. It's hard to take a man serious who wants to undo the reforms that made his own rise to the highest position in his field possible.

Wait a minute...this is a thread about mass transit and light rail. Rock on Grand Rapids, these are the kinds of progressive ideas that will make the city thrive in the 21st century.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
81 posts, read 164,040 times
Reputation: 18
Expensive to put in,
Expensive to maintain,
in my opinion, just another project that politicians will be arguing, and wasting taxpayer money over .
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-17-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
8,885 posts, read 18,039,062 times
Reputation: 3882
Quote:
Originally Posted by abegofet View Post
Expensive to put in,
Expensive to maintain,
in my opinion, just another project that politicians will be arguing, and wasting taxpayer money over .
I think you're outside your jurisdiction abegofet (Albuquerque?)
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
428 posts, read 727,555 times
Reputation: 123
I think this is very cool! I really like G.R. the more I spend time in it. My only worry is that it's a bit too small for mass transit right now....but otherwise G.R. really is a nice town.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-13-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Macao
16,079 posts, read 38,000,987 times
Reputation: 9779
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyjz1298 View Post
As a former Grand Rapids resident of 25 years, and now a current New York City resident I can offer this opinion. Mind you, I have no car and rely completely on mass transit.
Growing up in Grand Rapids and watching movies about NYC always made me wish we had a Subway or a light rail I suppose. It's a really cool idea, is more "green" and makes us feel like the city is bigger.
But serious. To make mass transit work, you really need a central business district. How many people do you know that work down town? Not many if any. Grand Rapids is just too sprawled out for anyone to really use mass transit. And even at the hight of rush hour, delays are so minor, it would be nearly impossible for a rail system to overcome the delays or elevate traffic by taking cars off the road. Cars are just too convenient. The key to NYC having such a great mass transit system is the physical and commercial layout of the City. The vast majority of people use it to get into Manhattan. Due to the horrible traffic, and extremely high parking costs, taking the train is cheaper and faster. Until it becomes cheaper and faster, it won't catch on.
True...YET...generally speaking, mass transit systems create density around their stations. So, by building it, the stations SHOULD start building apartments, condos, etc nearby within walking distances...which should create small businesses everywhere to cater to the dense community around them, etc.

That being said, GR could mess it all up, and create massive parking lots around the stations or some other thing that would strongly discourage what should happen from happening.

----

Personally, I think the biggest hurdle are the people. Portland attracts people who think and appreciate things being a bit different than just regular ol' shopping mall, parking lot, highway type of thing.

Generally I think of GR as being fairly strong in the shopping mall, parking lot, chain restaurant CAMP of thinking with little other thought to anything else.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about that though.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
428 posts, read 727,555 times
Reputation: 123
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger Beer View Post
True...YET...generally speaking, mass transit systems create density around their stations. So, by building it, the stations SHOULD start building apartments, condos, etc nearby within walking distances...which should create small businesses everywhere to cater to the dense community around them, etc.

That being said, GR could mess it all up, and create massive parking lots around the stations or some other thing that would strongly discourage what should happen from happening.

----

Personally, I think the biggest hurdle are the people. Portland attracts people who think and appreciate things being a bit different than just regular ol' shopping mall, parking lot, highway type of thing.

Generally I think of GR as being fairly strong in the shopping mall, parking lot, chain restaurant CAMP of thinking with little other thought to anything else.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about that though.
Oh I hope you are...but I get a generally conservative vibe in GR. I like open-mindedness.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2010, 12:06 PM
 
25 posts, read 57,825 times
Reputation: 20
I just went out to Meijer the other day to get some groceries and I had to leave the neighborhood and go out to a dumpy strip mall area because there was no other decent place to go around heritage hill. I'd love to do it Portland style and ride my bike around the neighborhood and maybe even pay a little extra to stay local and buy some decent health food...Hear that developers? heh
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: East Grand Rapids, MI
845 posts, read 3,049,923 times
Reputation: 236
You can ride you bike to D&W in EGR.
It's less than 3 miles from Heritage Hill.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan > Grand Rapids metro area
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2020, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top