06-06-2007, 11:10 AM
Location: Brooklyn New York
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My friend grew up in Desoto. His Dad commuted to St. Louis for about 30 years everyday to work. We met up in college in Nashville TN.
I am originally from Mi.
Grand Rapids area is great, but be prepared for real winter. Those long Grey days of winter can be kinda tough. But, if God wants you there, you will be fine.
PS - Used to be a pastor.
06-07-2007, 06:14 AM
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Thanks for the warning about the winters.
My mom grew up in MI and has been "warning" me of them. She suggests I rent until I make it through my first winter! However, you are correct, if that is where God wants me it will be ok.
Just learned that the enrollment at a Grandville Middle School is declining to the degree that they have had to let teachers go. What's up there??
06-07-2007, 06:39 AM
Location: Bronzeville, Chicago, IL
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Hate to bear bad news...
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I haven't applied for any positions yet, as I don't plan to move until summer of 08. Just gathering info, then will decide which districts to apply to. Am coming to town next month to check things out.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will need some SERIOUS divine intervention to acquire a teaching job in GR, depending on your certification. I am a secondary teacher (currently in MI) and I had to move to the SE corner of the state to get a job, after Student teaching in GR. For 7 years I have been trying to get back there, without ANY success. And I am a successful, recognized teacher.
The issue with declining enrollment is the state of economy and education in MI. Many people are leaving MI due to the bleak economy (not to mention the BLEAK, depressing winters). They are taking their children with them. Also, the state government keeps taking money away (or threatening to) from education MID-YEAR!!!
My wife and I are most likely leaving the state for an area of growth and opportunity. God has provided us some doors out and we are going to walk through one of them.
On a positive note, I have attended Mars Hill (as have some of my friends) and it is an INCREDIBLE place. There are fantastic programs for the whole family, great fellowship, and INSPIRED and INSPIRATIONAL teaching!!
God bless...He can make a way where there seems to be no way...
-TM
06-15-2007, 09:32 AM
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hey Teacherman - Thanks for the "heads-up"!! I totally agree that God will open the doors He wants open. A lot of things have to come together for my move to happen, so if/when it does I will know He did it!
Don't know if you still want to get back to GR but last week I noticed several vacancies around the city. May not be what you are certified for, but perhaps a way to get your foot in the door.
I have been getting Mars Hill teaching CDs for several years and am so excited about what God is doing there, and want to be a part of it!
06-16-2007, 03:49 PM
Location: At the end of the road, where the trail begins.
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I've lived most of my life in the G.R. area and just left in '05. Winters there are not bad at all (one of the reasons we moved to the U.P., we love snow!).
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Just learned that the enrollment at a Grandville Middle School is declining to the degree that they have had to let teachers go. What's up there??
Grandville was originally considered a suburb of G.R. Now it's becoming absorbed into the larger G.R. metro area so people are moving further out to the *new* suburbs.
You won't have any trouble finding substitute teaching work until you find a permanent position. My cousin has been doing it there for 3 years now 'cause he still doesn't have his final certification or whatever is needed to become an actual teacher.
Point being........ I love my cousin dearly but you couldn't pay me to allow this person to teach my kids
If you are good at what you do, they'll be overjoyed to have you!
06-18-2007, 10:14 AM
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Thanks for the "Winter encouragement"! Although Ohio born I grew up in FL and am slowly working my way back north.
06-18-2007, 11:50 AM
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Does your cousin work "full-time" as a sub? I thought about that but don't know that the paycheck would support me.
He usually has longer "contracts". For example I know he filled in for two different teachers on maternity leave this past year for a couple months each. Sometimes it's only a couple week ones, but last time I asked he had only gone a total of a few days without working. If he doesn't have a prior gig lined up, he calls the hotline the morning of and away he goes.
Like I said, a possible temporary thing until you find something permanent.
08-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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A lot of Grandville is nice, there are some older parts (still nice though), but a lot of new parts also. A good neighborhood is located just north of Rivertown Mall (Note:Not the mall where Mars is located, this is the nice mall). There are also nice locations and houses in southwest Wyoming which can also be considered Grandville... but whatever. Mars Hill is a great church though, and may God's will be done. Have fun finding a house. But for all I know, you might have found a house already.
08-10-2007, 07:02 PM
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Winters aren't nearly as bad now as they were when I was growing up. We have much milder winters here now.
01-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Location: Grand Rapids
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I live in GR
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Considering moving to the Grand Rapids area to join Mars Hill Bible Church. I'm in my early 40's, single, teacher for 18 years. Any recommendations regarding where to settle? Would like to be able to walk/bike to work, bike/jogging trails, suburbs, low crime rate, more upscale neighborhood (as upscale as I can afford on a teacher salary)
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I live in GR and attend Mars Hill Bible Church. I moved here from Grosse Pointe 16 years ago. I live in the Forest Hills area and have really liked it. Forest Hills schools and East Grand Rapids rate the highest in the area along with Rockford as well. If you have any questions about the area, you are welcome to write me and I will give you my number. I love the Mars Hill community and understand wanting to be a part of it.
I have friends that teach in Rockford and Potter's House if you want to talk to them about teaching in Grand Rapids.
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Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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My mom grew up in MI and has been "warning" me of them. She suggests I rent until I make it through my first winter! However, you are correct, if that is where God wants me it will be ok.
Hate to bear bad news...
If you are good at what you do, they'll be overjoyed to have you!
I live in GR
