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But yes it is extremly difficult to live after a sex conviction.. Your entire family disowns you whether your innocent or guilty. You get turned down for any place to rent, your always guaranteed a big fat ticket if you get pulled over reguardless of what you got pulled over for. Not to mention your sex life goes right out the window..."leading cause of re-offending" not to mention in some states it is against the law for two sex offenders to unite into any relationship of any kind. "mainly geared for creepers to not join forces in a crime spree". But moreover it causes a sex offender to miss sex thus creating a double edged sword. Often leading to a forced rape due to sexual frustration and for being isolated in thier community..
If a male offender and a female offender are able to cohabitate in a relationship.
Several things can happen. They keep each other in check, they satisfy each others need for companionship, they protect one another against making a mistake with thier requirments to register and also drops the possibilty of re-offending down by over 80%.
Keeping the offender to the INTH degree will only cause unforseeable issues down the road and will actually be more harm than good.
However in a worse and rare case scenario two offenders Can be a detrimental hazard to society by scheming and ploting plans against civil order or go on a rampage rape spree, and possibly but extremely unlikely is to fornicate to images depicting child abuse or child sexual content. The reason it is so unlikely is because even if an actual pedophile "likes" kiddy porn that individual will never share that he has or likes it for any reason...Not because its sacred to them....because most sex offenders still loath child molestation in any form. thus resulting in the person sharing that dark secret to possibly expose themselves to possible death..
I for one must tip my hat to your bravery and your intestinal fortitude. Having the screen name you do and putting thoughts and observations out there that will most likely not be very popular is a good but controversial thing to do that will surely draw someone's ire. Hey speaking of that, isn't that Bill O'Reilly lurking around the corner waiting and salivating to spin you?
I'd expect the attacks to show up soon as there's many people who have drank from the lake of group-think and hate anyone who hasn't done the same or has been inoculated from it's effects by actual life experience and logical,actual thinking for one's self.
A prime example of hate "group-think" is "then you shouldn't have done the crime". Well, maybe you didn't do it or to a logical non hysterical person it really wasn't a "crime" to begin with.
Wide cast with a huge net catches many unwanted fish along with the desired ones.
Thing is, with this particular net once you're in it it's very obvious there's no possibility of catch and release.
I'll say this again, I don't have understanding for someone who actually messes with little kids or actually rapes women (and men) but that's a very small section that's part of the huge "list" of people ruined for life.
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Think about this example, there's a guy who's been caught exposing himself to a 11,12 or 13 year old and it's discovered he's done this 3-4 times. This person is charged with 3 counts of indecent exposure. If he's convicted of just one he's on the list for at least 10 years in some states, most others it's life. If he's convicted of all 3 he's now a felon who will do years behind bars and will definitely be a list lifer. Does that make any sense to anyone? Has that 13 year old really been damaged so badly by seeing something that they've seen many times if they have siblings or a father or even watch movies or TV?
How about a person who in his early 20's was on LSD and "supposedly" touched a 3-4 year old? I say supposedly because he doesn't have any idea what did or didn't happen and hasn't messed with drugs for the last 20 years staying on the straight and narrow. On the list for life, shunned by everyone and everything else that goes along with "the list". How does making that public knowledge make sense?
Having consensual sex with another adult in the back of your van in a parking lot makes you a predator that deserves to be stigmatized for life because public sex is technically a sex offense, as is drunkenly publicly urinating at 2am, these are all things that can get you on that list, it's not just rapists on there you know it's a wide range of people whose only crime may have been soliciting a prostitute or having consensual sex as an 18 year old with a 17 year old that get grouped together with rapists and child molestors and get you wrongfully stigmatized by making you go door to door informing people that you're a sex offender, not letting you live within a certain radius of parks and schools, etc
Yeah, it's amazing how many people have done something that could qualify them for that list, things most people don't think all that much about...skinny dipping etc.
Wow. Quick to judge people without evidence, are you? That makes you no better than any other false accuser. I resent your description of our website. And I am here to tell you that you are wrong. You obviously didn't bother to visit the reports tab where everything is referenced and sourced.
Our website is one of the few places where you can find accurate information on domestic violence. And what we have to say about sexual assault laws should have every man shaking in his boots. Women too. I've heard from female college students too, not just men falsely accused and persecuted due to the new DED directive.
Next time, try to be nice.
teri
Program Director at SAVE
No evidence? It's all in that article I linked to, clearly your definition of what rape is is very skewed, you don't count people too drunk to consent, people who verbally resisted but were perhaps too shocked to "adequately" physically resist or someone whose "behavior" led somebody to believe they were consenting even if their words said otherwise, I mean that's what I got from that article complaining about how the laws have changed since the 1950s to count these acts of rape as rape
So yeah due to this piece of writing I will not accept this site as a legitimate source since it appears to count these acts of rape that are both logically and legally considered to be so as "false accusations"
Not really. There is statutory rape which is not forcible. I think the term "forcible" is used to separate it from statutory rape.
I don't know it seems akin to this whole "legitimate rape" business echoed by Todd Akin
Besides why discount statutory rape? It's not all 18 year olds with 16 and 17 year olds, 42 with 10 even if he/she did say yes, is that not rape in a way? Seems inherently victimizing with one being in a clear position of power over the other
But yes it is extremly difficult to live after a sex conviction.. Your entire family disowns you whether your innocent or guilty. You get turned down for any place to rent, your always guaranteed a big fat ticket if you get pulled over reguardless of what you got pulled over for. Not to mention your sex life goes right out the window..."leading cause of re-offending" not to mention in some states it is against the law for two sex offenders to unite into any relationship of any kind. "mainly geared for creepers to not join forces in a crime spree". But moreover it causes a sex offender to miss sex thus creating a double edged sword. Often leading to a forced rape due to sexual frustration and for being isolated in thier community..
If a male offender and a female offender are able to cohabitate in a relationship.
Several things can happen. They keep each other in check, they satisfy each others need for companionship, they protect one another against making a mistake with thier requirments to register and also drops the possibilty of re-offending down by over 80%.
Keeping the offender to the INTH degree will only cause unforseeable issues down the road and will actually be more harm than good.
However in a worse and rare case scenario two offenders Can be a detrimental hazard to society by scheming and ploting plans against civil order or go on a rampage rape spree, and possibly but extremely unlikely is to fornicate to images depicting child abuse or child sexual content. The reason it is so unlikely is because even if an actual pedophile "likes" kiddy porn that individual will never share that he has or likes it for any reason...Not because its sacred to them....because most sex offenders still loath child molestation in any form. thus resulting in the person sharing that dark secret to possibly expose themselves to possible death..
I agree with the sentiments you stated in this post, except for that one that I bolded
Forced to rape due to sexual frustration? I don't like that line of thinking like people can't help but rape?
Also not rebutting your point about two sex offenders in a relationship but I'm wondering where you're getting this 80% figure from
I agree with the sentiments you stated in this post, except for that one that I bolded
Forced to rape due to sexual frustration? I don't like that line of thinking like people can't help but rape?
Also not rebutting your point about two sex offenders in a relationship but I'm wondering where you're getting this 80% figure from
I am with you on not liking that kind of thinking and while we don't like it that doesn't mean it doesn't/couldn't happen. That is why psychiatric visits should continue long term with the patient being able to honestly speak with the doctor without fear of legal recourse. It's my understanding now that I've delved into this a bit that this is not case. So how do you help a person that's under the threat of being tossed back in lockdown if that person speaks what's actually on their mind?
I am with you on not liking that kind of thinking and while we don't like it that doesn't mean it doesn't/couldn't happen. That is why psychiatric visits should continue long term with the patient being able to honestly speak with the doctor without fear of legal recourse. It's my understanding now that I've delved into this a bit that this is not case. So how do you help a person that's under the threat of being tossed back in lockdown if that person speaks what's actually on their mind?
Not arguing that a sex offender might use sexual frustration as an excuse to re-offend. But lots of people get sexually frustrated and don't even think to go rape someone. Psyche visits sound like a good idea. But I'm not willing to blame rape on sexual frustration. It's still a conscious choice and if it isn't, they shouldn't be allowed out of prison.
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