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These benies are not shared on the same card..If the recipient has a bank account the monies are deposited monthly there, if not? They receive a different card much as child support recipients receive..
I have no idea what any other state is doing, but I know for a FACT that both CASH and FOODSTAMPS in NEW YORK share the SAME CARD. When you swipe, it will ask do you wish to use "cash" or "foodstamps".
Every state does their OWN thing apparently.
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The homeless or the very impoverished are eligible for General relief although this money is awarded on a pay back system, 91.00 a month and up to a one time cash payment of 300.00 for place to stay. The 91.00 must be paid back.
You must live in California. We don't have "general relief" in New York. Also, San Franciso is the only city in California where general relief does NOT have to be paid back.
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WHY does it take jumping through hoops to obtain cash aid? For the very same reason posters on here are complaining about…”Does the person really need it?”
I'd say a homeless or poor person with no other income coming NEEDS the cash, wouldn't you?
These benies are not shared on the same card..If the recipient has a bank account the monies are deposited monthly there, if not? They receive a different card much as child support recipients receive..
I think it depends on the state you're in. I know for a fact that cash is on the same EBT card in PA. For one, when you swipe your ACCESS card in PA, it will ask you food or cash, and for two, every so often (for whatever reason) when your SNAP is added to you account you will also receive a $1 in cash, don't ask me why
I have no idea what any other state is doing, but I know for a FACT that both CASH and FOODSTAMPS in NEW YORK share the SAME CARD. When you swipe, it will ask do you wish to use "cash" or "foodstamps".
Every state does their OWN thing apparently.
You must live in California. We don't have "general relief" in New York. Also, San Franciso is the only city in California where general relief does NOT have to be paid back.
I'd say a homeless or poor person with no other income coming NEEDS the cash, wouldn't you?
I think you are misreading me, I was mainly posting stats as I KNOW them from being a case manager for a non-profit in the not so distant past and these are the some of the services I assisted my clients in obtaining. This is true for the central coast in CA.
To answer the latter of your post in the most respectable way possible,
That while one would think the homeless status or being “poor” would render a individual eligible for “Cash aid” however it does NOT.
There are so many variables and this does not make it okay, it is neither here nor there it just is..this does not mean that I agree with it at all.
Homelessness can be described in several categories ( I have worked at a homeless shelter)
1. Displaced and is living in a room with others in a home
2. Displaced and has nowhere to go
3. Displaced due to substance abuse, mental illness and so forth
The “Poor” which fall in the category of under the poverty line? A person can state they are poor and there are services that can assist them but they need to gain advocacy from social services and so forth.
A Poor “Family” can obtain bennies after the due process is completed..
I.E. I will state different scenarios in order to explain what I meant.
1. A person was released from prison and has no job,. No place to stay and no employment.
THEY ARE given a meager amount to get a hotel and get on their feet and report to their parole officer.
They are poor and looking to join society again. THEIR parole officer should point them towards re-entry programs and jobs that will hire them.
But their life is their own. They are more than free to reside in a homeless shelter of their choice within their boundaries and give them some case management. Enrolling in college, qualifying for financial assistance which does allow a living allowance.
2. A homeless vet? They can stay at a homeless shelter until they get dx, until they gain social advocacy which is provided by most homeless shelters, they will be guided to the VA, benefits, enrolled in education, eligible for financial assistance and so forth this allowing that they are not abusing substances.
3. A elderly person. On a fixed income is eligible for the food stamp program being that they fall under the guidelines. They are eligible for homes if they cannot care for themselves and medicare will pay for it if they do not have resources tied up. They are eligible for assisted living assistance if they qualify.
A family? Again whether it be single or nuclear? Bennies will be awarded if the family falls under the guidelines.. They are eligible for housing, monetary bennies, WIC if their child is under the age of 5, cencal,
But again criteria must be met.
On a personal note…I have a friend the moved here from Alaska 2 years ago to be with her long time friend now b/f …She emailed me recently to state if I knew of anyone needing anyone for babysitting ( Nanny) or (Care giving)? I stated a great web link..she responded with “I need under the table work” “I am receiving SSDI because I am somewhat disabled and I do not want to lose my benefits”
I asked her what had happened? She stated in short “I moved here to be with a man who turned out to be addicted to porn, has hit me, has mentally abused me” “He stated when I first moved down that if it did not work he would pay for me to go back to Alaska especially because he knows I have a disabled son whom is older” “When I brought this up? He denied it”
I stated the usual, food stamps this would free up her cash aid so she could afford her place and to put a little away each month to move back as well as utility assistance programs, housing for her ect.
She stated that she was on SSDI as well as a small stipend that put her over the cash limit to receive foodstamps..
I directed her towards Catholic charities, salvation army, CAC, heap, cares and so forth. She si doing ok…and saving some money and that much closer to her goal..
If people were more aware or demanded to know what other orgs and agencies assisted with some of these needed things they would be ok but sadly they are not advertised..
I think you are misreading me, I was mainly posting stats as I KNOW them from being a case manager for a non-profit in the not so distant past and these are the some of the services I assisted my clients in obtaining. This is true for the central coast in CA.
To answer the latter of your post in the most respectable way possible,
That while one would think the homeless status or being “poor” would render a individual eligible for “Cash aid” however it does NOT.
There are so many variables and this does not make it okay, it is neither here nor there it just is..this does not mean that I agree with it at all.
Homelessness can be described in several categories ( I have worked at a homeless shelter)
1. Displaced and is living in a room with others in a home
2. Displaced and has nowhere to go
3. Displaced due to substance abuse, mental illness and so forth
The “Poor” which fall in the category of under the poverty line? A person can state they are poor and there are services that can assist them but they need to gain advocacy from social services and so forth.
A Poor “Family” can obtain bennies after the due process is completed..
I.E. I will state different scenarios in order to explain what I meant.
1. A person was released from prison and has no job,. No place to stay and no employment.
THEY ARE given a meager amount to get a hotel and get on their feet and report to their parole officer.
They are poor and looking to join society again. THEIR parole officer should point them towards re-entry programs and jobs that will hire them.
But their life is their own. They are more than free to reside in a homeless shelter of their choice within their boundaries and give them some case management. Enrolling in college, qualifying for financial assistance which does allow a living allowance.
2. A homeless vet? They can stay at a homeless shelter until they get dx, until they gain social advocacy which is provided by most homeless shelters, they will be guided to the VA, benefits, enrolled in education, eligible for financial assistance and so forth this allowing that they are not abusing substances.
3. A elderly person. On a fixed income is eligible for the food stamp program being that they fall under the guidelines. They are eligible for homes if they cannot care for themselves and medicare will pay for it if they do not have resources tied up. They are eligible for assisted living assistance if they qualify.
A family? Again whether it be single or nuclear? Bennies will be awarded if the family falls under the guidelines.. They are eligible for housing, monetary bennies, WIC if their child is under the age of 5, cencal,
But again criteria must be met.
On a personal note…I have a friend the moved here from Alaska 2 years ago to be with her long time friend now b/f …She emailed me recently to state if I knew of anyone needing anyone for babysitting ( Nanny) or (Care giving)? I stated a great web link..she responded with “I need under the table work” “I am receiving SSDI because I am somewhat disabled and I do not want to lose my benefits”
I asked her what had happened? She stated in short “I moved here to be with a man who turned out to be addicted to porn, has hit me, has mentally abused me” “He stated when I first moved down that if it did not work he would pay for me to go back to Alaska especially because he knows I have a disabled son whom is older” “When I brought this up? He denied it”
Why do grown women put themselves in this situation? I can see a young teen or twenty something falling for the fairytale love story, but a fully grown woman??
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I directed her towards Catholic charities, salvation army, CAC, heap, cares and so forth. She si doing ok…and saving some money and that much closer to her goal.. If people were more aware or demanded to know what other orgs and agencies assisted with some of these needed things they would be ok but sadly they are not advertised..
Dialing 211 will get you a list of all these organizations in every city, but NYC. I don't know why, but NYC's 311 (they don't have 211) will only direct you to CITY AGENCIES for help and not local charities. You have to find that out on your own. I honestly don't know how welfare people on here make it. How do you get clothes for your kids and basic necessities?
Being by yourself is one thing, but when you have to fend for others as well, there's no way you can't be stressed out from the thought.
Why do grown women put themselves in this situation? I can see a young teen or twenty something falling for the fairytale love story, but a fully grown woman??
Dialing 211 will get you a list of all these organizations in every city, but NYC. I don't know why, but NYC's 311 (they don't have 211) will only direct you to CITY AGENCIES for help and not local charities. You have to find that out on your own. I honestly don't know how welfare people on here make it. How do you get clothes for your kids and basic necessities?
Being by yourself is one thing, but when you have to fend for others as well, there's no way you can't be stressed out from the thought.
Marilyn I hear you 100%!!
As she was stating this to me? I was thinking to myself …”Okay, you are in your 50’s, you have a good life in Alaska, you have a son who you claim is special needs and you cannot stand to be too far from?” “Yet, you up and moved because the drummer in a band that you knew a long time ago in HS seemed like a great guy and all of a sudden you feel you cannot be apart from him?”
It is called poor judgement..period.. She knew I USE TO WORK for the county and I met her a few times while watching the band..this is why she emailed me her issue…
As far as bennies and looking for resources? Very true 211 exists here in CA HOWEVER there are some bennies not listed on 211 and some people do not even know that 211 exists…that is why I stated advocacy..
YES THERE are a shortage of bennies and I honestly do not know how some people make it..
Just last night while on FB, I HAVE A good friend whom is very christian yet is not judgmental…
She posted that a friend of hers was a single mama and just got fired from her job, the dad is not involved and she is filing for UI bennies but benefits from UI will take 1-2 weeks to reach her. She stated that her friend was worried about food instead of focusing on XMAS as most of us blessed with employment are…
So being that we are blessed to have a great circle of friends everyone stepped up and stated they could do a drop of goods and where and what time to do the drop. I included. We asked not only what food was needed but what the kids wanted for xmas ( there are 4 babies) so we could start fulfilling the wish lists..
However not too many good people exist to spread the word of helping..
SO I stated ‘I can help with food and presents bhut this is not going to change her status..she is not going to be able to pay rent, utilities. And ect on what she gains from UI…I started naming agencies and names…
It is so sad that more help is not spread around..
I wish you a merry Christmas in the event that we do not meet up on the forums until then.
We all know that welfare is abused by the screaming meme's that want more free stuff. Someone I know said that one way welfare queens abuse it is.
Did you notice how Walmart always has big buggies of returns. What welfare queens do is buy stuff with their EBT card and then go straight to the customer service return department and return stuff. Then they get cash. Anyone know if this is true?
Sticking to the original topic about welfare abuse, I have to say this. There have been laws and policy on the books for the last 50 year. Throughout those years, these same laws and policy have been relaxed due to social change. These relaxed laws and policy have allowed everybody with half a brain to abuse the system. I drive past two gas stations/quickie marts on the way to the bus transit center every morning. They both have a sign saying EBT accepted. WTF!! Why do people on state assistance need to make a visit at the quickie/gas station?? Little Cesar’s Pizza accepts EBT cards even. Point I am trying to make is, the laws and policy need to be enforced. Nobody enforces policy or law anymore. If this were to happen, I guarantee you, less people would be on state assistance. When I was growing up on Welfare, they actually had Food Stamps. The only place that accepted these Food Stamps was the grocery store. There was only a small list of things you could buy with those Food Stamps. (milk, bread, baby formula, fruits, vegetables, and a few other things.) There were very strict rules that you had to follow, or you would get kicked off Welfare, Section 8, and Food Stamps. You could not have a live-in boyfriend, a car that was valued over $1,000, and you got you residence inspected once per year. Throughout the years, I have noticed the Government has removed all these restrictions and allowed people to do what ever they want. More and more business are getting approved for EBT cards because they know it is a money maker. The point I am making is, Government needs to enforce the laws and policy that have been on the books for years. ****, I have a more difficult time getting approved for FMLA time off from work than some people who get approved for welfare.
Sticking to the original topic about welfare abuse, I have to say this. There have been laws and policy on the books for the last 50 year. Throughout those years, these same laws and policy have been relaxed due to social change. These relaxed laws and policy have allowed everybody with half a brain to abuse the system. I drive past two gas stations/quickie marts on the way to the bus transit center every morning. They both have a sign saying EBT accepted. WTF!! Why do people on state assistance need to make a visit at the quickie/gas station?? Little Cesar’s Pizza accepts EBT cards even. Point I am trying to make is, the laws and policy need to be enforced. Nobody enforces policy or law anymore. If this were to happen, I guarantee you, less people would be on state assistance. When I was growing up on Welfare, they actually had Food Stamps. The only place that accepted these Food Stamps was the grocery store. There was only a small list of things you could buy with those Food Stamps. (milk, bread, baby formula, fruits, vegetables, and a few other things.) There were very strict rules that you had to follow, or you would get kicked off Welfare, Section 8, and Food Stamps. You could not have a live-in boyfriend, a car that was valued over $1,000, and you got you residence inspected once per year. Throughout the years, I have noticed the Government has removed all these restrictions and allowed people to do what ever they want. More and more business are getting approved for EBT cards because they know it is a money maker. The point I am making is, Government needs to enforce the laws and policy that have been on the books for years. ****, I have a more difficult time getting approved for FMLA time off from work than some people who get approved for welfare.
I want to make one thing very clear to you before I go on…
I have worked since the day I turned 16..I come from a family thay has never received any type of government aid even though we fell on hard times however even I can understand the need for public aid especially where single mothers that once had a “partner”, SO or husband ( Use whatever term you wish) that decided “He” no longer wanted to be a family man and bailed..
THEREFORE leaving his “FAMILY” destitute…period…
Now that I got this out of the way?
Quickie marts, gas stations? Having EBT on their windows? Well last time I looked, they all usually sell “ Milk, drinks and food” do they not? Therefore EBT would be able to be used accordingly..
Limited ‘foodstuff” items that were allotted back in the 80’s and prior?
It was okay, it was “sustenance” god forbid they start allowing other items other than specific types of meats, the blocks of government issued cheese, and milk…wow…
What? Kids whose mothers that are on welfare are not entitled to a 5.00 hot n ready little cesars pizza? Are you kidding me right now? Or a subway sandwich? My god..what is wrong with you?
The “system” has actually become more “strict” not lax…THE GOVERNEMENT had nothing to do with these establishments ( Little Cesars, Subway, Trader Joes, gas stations or quick marts) accepting EBT cards..The government issues an allotted amount based on INCOME, Personal Property, FAMILY SIZE, eligibility, I think that is what is called ( Insert sarcasm right about now) .
It is up to these respective establishments to accept this benefit card period..
They want a piece of the action, I believe we call this a form of capitalism..right?
SO IN THIS RESPECT? I suggest you get your little “Righteous picket sign ready” and picket against these establishments…and included in your rhetoric I suggest you add “Corporate greed” lmao…
Regarding having the boyfriend, with the cars, and the glitz?
Cannot argue with you there..
SOME not ALL choose to sponge the system for what it is worth..
Some do LIE! Through their teeth too..I had a neighbor who sponged off the system while her alleged “disabled b/f” collected SSDI ( This is one of the ways they qualified) however one could see him mowing lawns and riding his dirt bike down the street popping wheelies…So much for being disabled and hurting his back right? And getting oxy’s as well as a MJ card and having his little own pot farm…WHICH HE sold illegally..
Or the ex of my brother in law whom is claiming SSDI and living in low income housing ( Which she was only eligible for since she had 2 sons under the age of 18). Yet was using the child support and ssdi bennies to get tanked up on booze and go on tirades until she lost her kids…
Whats my point? There is a “fix” for all of this and it is not the system that is at fault here it is the people whom find loopholes that abuse the system and make it worse for those that really need the aid..
It takes concerned citizens to make those calls to HUD, Child SUPPORT, Public aid…The police..Any call can be made anonymously if one researches the system…
End result? The pesky spongy neighbors? Lost their housing, lost their kids and ect.
THE ex g/f? My sister took care of that and contacted HUD and stated that the ex lost custody of the kids, HUD did an investigation and as of Dec 1 the ex was kicked out..
There are rules and policies but they ( The systems set up) do not have the man power to monitor everyone on aid..
It is unethical to punish all for the acts of a random few…
I suggest you do your part instead of belly aching and scape goating the system to do your part and report away…
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