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And Helen Keller had a personal assistant that devoted her life to caring for her.....actually lived with her.....spent her whole life with her....loved and cared about her.
She did not have to hire numerous health care workers to take care of her as many of us would have to do.
If I were to become blind and deaf, I would lose my home and my pets. I would end up intstitutionalized once my money ran out. No thanks.
Look at Christopher Reeve....he had family and money to afford the best of care.....versus those of us who would end up in an instituional setting getting minimal care.
You can't take one person's circumstance and project that onto all others who are in that situation.
Have you ever been to a nursing home? Have you seen the ones who lay in their beds all day.....waiting for someone to feed them, waiting for someone to change their diapers, waiting for someone to bathe them? Ever heard the screamers....ya know....the ones that just moan and scream ALL DAY long? Those with no family? Just one horrible day after horrible day after horrible day....just existing?
If you want to exist that way....you are more than welcome to do so.....but why on earth do you want to force others, who do not feel the same way you do, to do the same?
I think you are most likely a decent individual, but you are also naive.
Society isn't as you perceive it. You may be decent and may care about others, but most people don't. I live in the real world. It's a brutal place. I see why many people buckle and decide to end it. I salute them for being brave enough to give society the middle finger.
WOW! Did you ever misread me. I own two shotguns, one rifle, one crossbow and two handguns and I ain't too friggin' naive neighbor.
One can "live in the real world" and I do and still understand the origins of psychological depression and separate those from the drug-addicted, violent losers among us. In case you didn't know it, there ARE very decent folks who sink into fits of depression as simple victim's of life's circumstances who with a little recognition and understanding can be led to REAL help. That was the entire point of my extended comments. If you think that makes me some kind of "softy" it doesn't bother me, because I KNOW I'm right. Life's a tuff struck 'n fuggle a my old man used to say. Some can bounce back from hard luck and bad times, some can't or don't.
You took off running with an *ss-sumption that is totally incorrect when you said that...
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Society isn't as you perceive it.
...when you don't know how I perceive it, not really. Then you said...
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You may be decent and may care about others, but most people don't. I live in the real world. It's a brutal place. I see why many people buckle and decide to end it.
Guess what friend? I live in that same world. NY is no bed of roses or walk in the park. I see and have dealt with all manner of sh*t and lowlifes here and I'm 74 and still work despite multiple health issues. Not in the real world huh! One thing I'd never do though.
I'd never "salute them for being brave enough to give society the middle finger" by offing themselves. It's a coward's exit. That's for damn sure.
That is not true. You need to review some youtube videos of people seeking the right to die painlesssly.
Should I source some for you?
I have read that refusing nourishment, food and liquids, is not the worst way to go, assuming the person is quite ill to begin with. But would they allow that? We all saw what happened in Florida.
No need to claudhopper, I'm quite capable, and I still would never advocate for any suicide assisted laws...and I stand firm in my belief that it's wrong to help someone kill themselves...That is what I believe, my opinion, sorry if that offends anyone....please try to keep your insults towards me (just because I feel differently than you do) MrRational to a minimum.
Contradictory post. On the one hand, you say "no one is stopping you from choosing a painless exit", but on the other hand, there is no such thing as a painless exit if one is forced to resort to committing suicide. You are basically forcing people to choose either a life of pain and/or misery with no hope of improvement or a risk and painful exit.
Absolutely ridiculous..Why do you think that only a doctor can give you a painless death, what makes you think that if a doctor helps you commit suicide it'll be painless, but if you do it on your own it won't?..I'm not forcing anyone to live a life of pain and misery just because I don't believe a doctor should be there to end it for them...
Absolutely ridiculous..Why do you think that only a doctor can give you a painless death, what makes you think that if a doctor helps you commit suicide it'll be painless, but if you do it on your own it won't?..I'm not forcing anyone to live a life of pain and misery just because I don't believe a doctor should be there to end it for them...
And if a doctor agrees to help people commit suicide via euthanasia...?
Absolutely ridiculous..Why do you think that only a doctor can give you a painless death, what makes you think that if a doctor helps you commit suicide it'll be painless, but if you do it on your own it won't?..I'm not forcing anyone to live a life of pain and misery just because I don't believe a doctor should be there to end it for them...
Mayge because doctors have access to drugs that I don't have access to?
Have you ever watched a pet being euthanized? Pretty peaceful for them......as compared to blowing their brains out, hanging them or throwing them off a bridge or in front of a train.
That's easy...one involves YOU, and is personal....... and the other means involving someone else to do the dirty work.
And if that "someone else", a doctor, believes that helping someone end a life of agony...... in a dignified, peaceful manner......is a compassionate thing to do.....what business is that of yours?
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