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I don't believe a company can claim to support diversity without taking race into consideration in a serious way, which I can't say Google's numbers evidence. It would seem that Jesse Jackson may well have called them on their hypocrisy when he went out to execute his unsavory, if not illegal, Rainbow PUSH coalition work in his recent visit to silicon valley.
Moreover, as I continue to look at Google, I find other staffing situations that indicate prejudice might well be at work inside Google; e.g., when I examine Google's senior executive hires, I find a high percentage (50% or so) are Jewish or have a Jewish spouse, and given that the founders are Jewish but claim to support diversity, its entirely reasonable to question their sincerity and wonder whether or not bigotry, if not racism, is practiced by Google.
"Racist" and "Racism" have become so overused that the words have lost much of their meaning.
Google, like any other company, should be hiring the best and the brightest, regardless of skin color or religious affiliation. The angst and hand wringing from the "diversity at any cost" group is as pathetic as it is tiresome.
"Racist" and "Racism" have become so overused that the words have lost much of their meaning.
Google, like any other company, should be hiring the best and the brightest, regardless of skin color or religious affiliation. The angst and hand wringing from the "diversity at any cost" cost group is as pathetic as it is tiresome.
Google has forever claimed to support diversity. Moreover, my recall is that the Democratic party created and heavily pushed diversity as a centerpiece of their platform, and Google contributes heavily to the Democrats and has long done so. As such, I certainly perceive hypocrisy (Googles' words are not supported by its actions) being alive and well within Google, because their numbers at face value do not and have not supported the diversity they have claimed to support. Even worse, it took a visit by Jesse Jackson -- I am any thing but a fan or Jesse Jackson and his Rainbow Push coalition -- to get Google to fess up.
Further, my sensibilities have the elite faction in the Democratic party as certainly being the Jewish faction, and Googles' CEO, Larry Page, is Jewish as is Sergey Brin who co-founded Google with Larry. So to me, there is an additional hypocrisy factor in play here. And that says nothing of Google's senior executive hires having a heavy Jewish representation. So once again I see a likely diversity/hypocrisy issue in play. Which could be said to have a pathetic but tiresome ring to it.
I get it, so to some people lack of diversity means - lack of black people.
Any other diversity factor is irrelevant; gender, socioeconomic back ground, national origin, religion, ethnicity, race (unless it is black), etc; all those diversity factors are meaningless, some of you think the only diversity measurement that matters is the number of black people.
I am still awaiting the answers to the questions I previously posted...
Blacks are 3%, Hispanics are 4% of Google's employee base in California where they are 40% . Yet you only mention blacks. Can you tell me why?
Because AAs are the usual suspects when it comes to demanding "diversity" based upon some correlation between general population, and this time is no different, to wit Jesse Jackson hounding Google et al over the matter. Will give you Hispanics and women are trailing along for the ride as well. But again the arguments are the same; we are "X" of the local/total American population therefore we should have "X" numbers at this or that company.
Because AAs are the usual suspects when it comes to demanding "diversity" based upon some correlation between general population, and this time is no different, to wit Jesse Jackson hounding Google et al over the matter. Will give you Hispanics and women are trailing along for the ride as well. But again the arguments are the same; we are "X" of the local/total American population therefore we should have "X" numbers at this or that company.
Yes, many people do not understand the term "availability", which is the availability of the skills for a certain position in the recruiting area. Companies and the fed gov use this when evaluating disparate impact in hiring, and federal contractors use it to set goals to reach out to under utilized groups (by the way, according to the fed gov, whites and males can never be underutilized, federal contractors are not even required to set goals and outreach to whites or males).
A company like Google cannot force a certain group to obtain the skills it needs. I doubt society will ever want a company to have this kind of power. Some people here feel the need to hold a company accountable, yet not ever grant it the authority to correct its perceived deficiencies.
As I showed a few posts back, whites and males are actually under represented at Google according to their availability; of course this was a generic availability analysis because a real one will be by position or job group.
What is the percentage of blacks and hispanics with computer science degrees as opposed to them in the general population? That should be how this is viewed.
Google has forever claimed to support diversity. Moreover, my recall is that the Democratic party created and heavily pushed diversity as a centerpiece of their platform, and Google contributes heavily to the Democrats and has long done so. As such, I certainly perceive hypocrisy (Googles' words are not supported by its actions) being alive and well within Google, because their numbers at face value do not and have not supported the diversity they have claimed to support. Even worse, it took a visit by Jesse Jackson -- I am any thing but a fan or Jesse Jackson and his Rainbow Push coalition -- to get Google to fess up.
Further, my sensibilities have the elite faction in the Democratic party as certainly being the Jewish faction, and Googles' CEO, Larry Page, is Jewish as is Sergey Brin who co-founded Google with Larry. So to me, there is an additional hypocrisy factor in play here. And that says nothing of Google's senior executive hires having a heavy Jewish representation. So once again I see a likely diversity/hypocrisy issue in play. Which could be said to have a pathetic but tiresome ring to it.
You have failed to address post #123. Until you, do, this discussion is rather meaningless.
I’m sure some will get a little wild when I say this, but it’s no longer whites in the majority oppressing blacks, but other blacks. The only person is the black community that seems to recognize this is Dr. Cosby, but he’s a sellout in the black community.
It's time for them to get over it and stop playing victim.
Nobody is "playing victim." The oppression, and its effects of the systematic discrimination that has purposefully created a class of people who start the process of life in a subordinate condiion, continue to this day. Let me ask you a question.....would you want to be black in this society?
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