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No one is judging or attacking very poor people. Some people can't avail themselves of the options we've discussed here. Others can.
For years, I work with people with very limited income. All but the homeless have TVs and cell phones. If they wanted a crock pot or a freezer, they'd have one. I know several older women on extremely limited incomes who have small chest freezers. I've met a lot of low income women who cook from scratch. Many have small gardens. People are a lot more resourceful than you give them credit.
Somebody is being "willfully ignorant" but I don't think it's the people sharing their tips and techniques for eating healthy on a limited budget.
Which, after all, is the topic of this thread.
The homeless in Redding do have phones. Nicer phones than I have. Most of the homeless here are actually on SSI or SSDI, and make as much or more than I do per month. They choose not to use their income on housing. But, they have smart phones. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by ScarletG
Whole chickens are around 11$ to 15$ (depending on size)....around 3.50$ a pound. I can't imagine getting five or six family meals out of a 2 pound bird.
Where on earth do you live?
I bet I could find a cheaper meat option for you no matter where you live. Venison? Rabbit?
I used to live in the boonies in WA state and my husband regularly hunted. Ground venison makes great spaghetti sauce.
Fortunately there are more and more sources of healthy produce as most cities now have a farmer's market, even more than one. Many medical centers (at least here in Michigan) have days when they sell produce as does the VA (along with cake and doughnuts). Where I live if you are on food stamps they go twice as far when used for produce. Maybe not absolutely everywhere in the US, but there are lots more places to healthy food.
Vegetarianism a scam? How many times have you heard about the "cancer fighting" compounds in tomatoes, blueberries, or any of a dozen different fruits and vegetables? I don't know that vegetarians are necessarily always healthier, but I challenge you to find reported risks in eating too many fruits, grains and veggies. They seldom contain fat (except "good" fat), more fiber, less calories, more vitamins and minerals. Animals fats are a whole different story. And humans (even adult males) only need about 60 grams of protein a day. That's only a few ounces.
The homeless in Redding do have phones. Nicer phones than I have. Most of the homeless here are actually on SSI or SSDI, and make as much or more than I do per month. They choose not to use their income on housing. But, they have smart phones. Go figure.
Where on earth do you live?
I bet I could find a cheaper meat option for you no matter where you live. Venison? Rabbit?
I used to live in the boonies in WA state and my husband regularly hunted. Ground venison makes great spaghetti sauce.
We do not hunt...so wild game is not on our menu...and it certainly isn't something you find at the local grocery.
No one is judging or attacking very poor people. Some people can't avail themselves of the options we've discussed here. Others can.
For years, I work with people with very limited income. All but the homeless have TVs and cell phones. If they wanted a crock pot or a freezer, they'd have one. I know several older women on extremely limited incomes who have small chest freezers. I've met a lot of low income women who cook from scratch. Many have small gardens. People are a lot more resourceful than you give them credit.
Somebody is being "willfully ignorant" but I don't think it's the people sharing their tips and techniques for eating healthy on a limited budget.
Which, after all, is the topic of this thread.
I'm merely saying that in order for the poor (which means "people with almost no options" in my opinion) to be able to take advantage of what's being suggested here, OTHER things have to change first.
The homeless in Redding do have phones. Nicer phones than I have. Most of the homeless here are actually on SSI or SSDI, and make as much or more than I do per month. They choose not to use their income on housing. But, they have smart phones. Go figure.
Are you saying that sleeping on the streets is a luxury?
Your definition of a poor person is someone who can go to McDonalds. Your definition of someone too busy, is someone with transportation to a store and McDonalds, and who is working with some income.
All of these answers more than meet that criteria.
No, my definition of poor is someone with very few options. And clearly some in here feel that the poor have the same options they do. That's erroneous thinking.
Why should that be surprising? When did poor people ever have it as easy as rich people? Anywhere in the world? In any era?
You didn't understand my intent. I am not saying poor people have it easy. We have high expectations for poor people than we have for ourselves. You can hop over to any one of the forums, and talks of food stamps quickly talk about how we should disallow the purchase of soda/junk food on food stamps. As if people on food stamps should be smarter shoppers than the rest of us.
Whole chickens are around 11$ to 15$ (depending on size)....around 3.50$ a pound. I can't imagine getting five or six family meals out of a 2 pound bird.
Not around here. I never pay more than about $6 for a whole chicken.
And I use meat as "enhancement" - not as the main part of the meal. For instance, chicken spaghetti - it's not mostly chicken - in fact, you can go light on the chicken and still have the flavor, especially if you boil the pasta in the chicken broth. Chicken and dumplings - same thing. You can make a TON of chicken and dumplings without actually using a whole lot of chicken. Stir fry - once again, go light on the chicken. Chicken noodle soup - same thing. Heavy on the veggies and broth, light on the chicken.
I've done it - countless times. And of course it depends on the size of your family. For a family of four, I could get about four meals from one chicken.
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