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If there was only one government, for the whole world, where would illegal immigrants go? There would be nowhere they could be illegal. How could Hamas and Israel bomb each other? Wouldn't the world government arrest all the bombers? How could Putin get away with using polonium to poison his former spies? Wouldn't he get arrested for that?
Would one government for the whole world make the world a better place, and bring peace to everyone?
With peace comes prosperity. Wouldn't the whole world become more prosperous?
Or would it become a dystopian nightmare, with government tyranny making everyone slaves and abusing them? How could we make it work without the risk of that happening? If we could make it work, would it make the world a better place? How much better?
If there was only one government, for the whole world, where would illegal immigrants go? There would be nowhere they could be illegal. How could Hamas and Israel bomb each other? Wouldn't the world government arrest all the bombers? How could Putin get away with using polonium to poison his former spies? Wouldn't he get arrested for that?
Would one government for the whole world make the world a better place, and bring peace to everyone?
With peace comes prosperity. Wouldn't the whole world become more prosperous?
Or would it become a dystopian nightmare, with government tyranny making everyone slaves and abusing them? How could we make it work without the risk of that happening? If we could make it work, would it make the world a better place? How much better?
Well, keep in mind in the Roman Empire, that was a government for the whole world........but one still had Kings abound. The thing was they could rule their own kingdoms, just that the empire did the "international" affairs.
Actually, the empire was rather impressive from what I recall of the history course I took at the turn of the question. One of the latter emperors made "everyone" a Roman citizen........and vastly increased his tax base.
In any event, keep in mind that there will always be someone who doesn't agree with how things are going and try to change it.............one way or the other.
A government has a maximum range in which it can be efficient, because its run by humans. People only care so much about those that live farther away from themselves. This is why all large empires fail, you cant govern a territory 1000 miles away, let alone finance it. Countries like Germany are just the right size, not too big and not too small. Just right. Look at the larger Nations, sure theyre great on paper, but theyre riddled with glossed over issues due to their size.
Humans interact with each other. The more people who interact together the more concessions must be made by all in order to keep that association together. The larger a society, the more burdensome becomes the ever-growing concessions. A single government would be a disaster. Maximizing the loss of freedom for the individual. Imaging a single pure democracy, three billion people oppressed by four billion people. It would be the largest prison imaginable.
Ideally, humans could divide up into the smallest basic units that allowed maximum freedom for the individual. However, there are always delusional megalomaniacs who wish to rule over others. So groups find comfort in numbers. It is a catch 22. We wish to be free, but our natural inclination for safety makes us join freedom destroying associations.
All in all, I think the smallest associations offer the most freedom while the largest destroy the most freedom.
edit* my dumb mistake....I forgot part of the question...
Yes, there will eventually be one nation. It will be run by those who finance the many nations now. The IMF will consolidate all the nations that their members have in perpetual debt into a single Plantation.
Ultimately, we will have some sort of global government.
The entirety of human history has been a progression of states being consolidated into fewer and fewer numbers of states, from proto-states such as bands and chiefdoms coalescing to actual states that we would recognize as such. There are occasional reversions - the burst of new states post-World War II (de-colonialization) and the 1990s (mainly, the collapses of the USSR and Yugoslavia), but the long-term trend is for fewer, and larger in both landmass and population, states.
Modern transportation, communications, and cultural interactions make this feasible. I certainly do not expect it anytime soon, and it will probably be gradual - an example might be Europe, in the way that the EU of 28 sovereign states has slowly come into being out of its beginnings as the 6-state European Coal & Steel Community in 1952. I suspect that, ultimately, it will continue to morph into a sort of 'United States of Europe'. Similarly, the world will go through a series of agreements, from as loose as the UN and the World Court, to increasing links (confederacy) to ultimately a government spanning the globe.
The trend is clear, even if the time-frame and the details are not.
Ultimately, we will have some sort of global government.
The entirety of human history has been a progression of states being consolidated into fewer and fewer numbers of states, from proto-states such as bands and chiefdoms coalescing to actual states that we would recognize as such. There are occasional reversions - the burst of new states post-World War II (de-colonialization) and the 1990s (mainly, the collapses of the USSR and Yugoslavia), but the long-term trend is for fewer, and larger in both landmass and population, states.
Modern transportation, communications, and cultural interactions make this feasible. I certainly do not expect it anytime soon, and it will probably be gradual - an example might be Europe, in the way that the EU of 28 sovereign states has slowly come into being out of its beginnings as the 6-state European Coal & Steel Community in 1952. I suspect that, ultimately, it will continue to morph into a sort of 'United States of Europe'. Similarly, the world will go through a series of agreements, from as loose as the UN and the World Court, to increasing links (confederacy) to ultimately a government spanning the globe.
The trend is clear, even if the time-frame and the details are not.
Actually, I disagree with this assessment. You speak of the breakup of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia as if they were anomalies, when in truth they were the natural forces of culture and ethnicity shattering artificial political constructs. East Timor left Indonesia. Czechoslovakia became the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Sudan has broken in half. Iraq will likely break up into multiple pieces. Catalan continues to make noise about leaving Spain. If conditions are right, Quebec might leave Canada. Heck, Scotland is about to vote on whether they leave England or not. Even in the United States, we're beginning to see talk about political breakup, whether it's California breaking up in multiple states or sections of the country seceding entirely.
Actually, I disagree with this assessment. You speak of the breakup of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia as if they were anomalies, when in truth they were the natural forces of culture and ethnicity shattering artificial political constructs. .........
If there was only one government, for the whole world, where would illegal immigrants go? There would be nowhere they could be illegal. How could Hamas and Israel bomb each other? Wouldn't the world government arrest all the bombers? How could Putin get away with using polonium to poison his former spies? Wouldn't he get arrested for that?
Would one government for the whole world make the world a better place, and bring peace to everyone?
With peace comes prosperity. Wouldn't the whole world become more prosperous?
Or would it become a dystopian nightmare, with government tyranny making everyone slaves and abusing them? How could we make it work without the risk of that happening? If we could make it work, would it make the world a better place? How much better?
Look at the aftermath of it being done on a smaller scale.
Look at the history and current situation in Cyprus, Nigeria, Sudan (former British colonies).
Look at the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s.
Look at the current situation in the former Soviet republics, and the aspirant breakaway republics (Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Osettia, et. al)
even America couldn't make it through history without a civil war.
And you think this is going to work for the entire world when it can't even work for a single region? Keep dreaming.
Last edited by Oldhag1; 09-12-2014 at 12:17 AM..
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