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What do you mean by that? Not to mention the statement has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.
Are you saying education is not attainable here?
Are you claiming we don't pay for education AND even kids MEALS 3x day 365 days a year out of our taxes.
Are you claiming we don't have services for the "poor"? That's funny, Florida spent over $18 BILLION a year way back in 2009.
And that race bating straw man article? LOL pretty pointless to making ANY case.
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Just a thought.
POOR. LOL Only in America do the "poor" have cell phones, plumbing, air conditioning, internet, free food, free education, free medical care and CARS. OH and now free POT.
And of course JOBS, too. Roofers used to be a UNION job (even if they WERE thugs)...now? Dime a dozen in front of the Home Depot. Every house in Florida is speaking SPANISH while putting up roofs. OH. THESE are jobs AMERICANS won't do??? Nonsense.
Well ok, maybe THIS generation won't. Special snowflakes don't want to get their hands dirty? Any OTHER reason???
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Are you saying education is not attainable here?
With some of the best and most accessible public education in the world (which we take for granted), of course it's "attainable". So the obvious question is, then why are some attaining it and not others? And we can't just blame it on "immigrants", with Asian immigrants having even higher rates of education and achievement for their first generations than most "natives".
So my point is, could it at least partly be attributable to "culture", where for example compared to Asian folks who generally place a much higher value on teachers and education… instead we have so many of our own underclass 'natives' either publicly ragging on science, teachers, professors and "educated elites", or else looking down on education as "acting white"?!
Does that sound like a formula for "success", especially in today's global, and extremely competitive, knowledge-based economy? And BTW, it's also no secret that most of the loudest calls for secession, are coming from our least educated parts of the country (which coincidentally are also the 'cultures' having the most difficult time coping with the 'new economy' and 'change'…among other things).
What do you mean by that? Not to mention the statement has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.
Are you saying education is not attainable here?
Public education is very well attainable. I wouldn't call it good in the least bit. Even the "good" schools consist of kids with good parents, not better educational standards or curriculum's.
Grade schools teach the most useless subjects to train our future. We don't hold teachers accountable, neither do we the parents.
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Are you claiming we don't pay for education AND even kids MEALS 3x day 365 days a year out of our taxes.
Shoddy education? We pay too much for that. Kids don't attend school 365 days..
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POOR. LOL Only in America do the "poor" have cell phones, plumbing, air conditioning, internet, free food, free education, free medical care and CARS. OH and now free POT.
Cell phones are pretty much required to do any sort of business in America. Plumbing?
Rich people have free education, health-care, and free food too. Who is giving out free cars? There is no free access to weed.
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And of course JOBS, too. Roofers used to be a UNION job (even if they WERE thugs)...now? Dime a dozen in front of the Home Depot. Every house in Florida is speaking SPANISH while putting up roofs. OH. THESE are jobs AMERICANS won't do??? Nonsense.
Actually, being around them for years. It's a job American's won't do for the price they will.
Scotland gives Americans secessionist ideas. Almost one-quarter of people polled were open to idea of their state leaving the United States.
Scottish voter rejected seceding from the United Kingdom last week but what if states in the U.S. were presented with the same option? A new Reuters poll shows many American voters wouldn't made a similar choice if presented with that option here. One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why? | Jim Gaines
People rarely eager to leave or separate from the state in which they live comfortably. United States - the richest and strongest state in the world, and such desire, in theory, should be minimal. Is it true? http://media.cagle.com/53/2012/11/13/122314_600.jpg
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Originally Posted by runswithscissors
What do you mean by that? Not to mention the statement has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.
Are you saying education is not attainable here?
Are you claiming we don't pay for education AND even kids MEALS 3x day 365 days a year out of our taxes.
Are you claiming we don't have services for the "poor"? That's funny, Florida spent over $18 BILLION a year way back in 2009.
And that race bating straw man article? LOL pretty pointless to making ANY case.
If "our poor" are so incapable of being educated, it may be a good idea to stop Obama from importing the most destitute, illiterate, uneducated and unskilled illegals across our Southern border in exchange for continuing the permanent underclass which translates to Democrat votes.
Just a thought.
POOR. LOL Only in America do the "poor" have cell phones, plumbing, air conditioning, internet, free food, free education, free medical care and CARS. OH and now free POT.
And of course JOBS, too. Roofers used to be a UNION job (even if they WERE thugs)...now? Dime a dozen in front of the Home Depot. Every house in Florida is speaking SPANISH while putting up roofs. OH. THESE are jobs AMERICANS won't do??? Nonsense.
Well ok, maybe THIS generation won't. Special snowflakes don't want to get their hands dirty? Any OTHER reason???
There is nothing here that indicates “why” people want to secede from the union, only personal opinions, attitudes or observations of negativity. I would guess that in a democracy where people have the right to vote and have a say in the government that ¾ of the Americans want to “stay” not leave and thus the other ¼ need to accept it . At the last time I looked, the US was a democracy where people had a voice and the majority ruled. If you have all the money, wealth and gold then you have a larger voice with our elected representatives and the lobbyists who have their ear. The poor, uneducated simply don’t have anything but one small voice and it’s not always heard by the government.
Where are they going to go? China? Africa? I suppose they all want to got to Europe and get the freebees...apparently unaware that Europe is on the brink of depression.
Where are they going to go? China? Africa? I suppose they all want to got to Europe and get the freebees...apparently unaware that Europe is on the brink of depression.
It could have something to do with being fed all the BS day in and day with the nationalized media. Perhaps its the fact that the government is forcing us into a third world nation with 10 times the prices. For example would you rather live in Colombia where a root canal of the same quality cost $150.00 as opposed to a $1,200 root canal in the states which is quickly becoming the same third world nation, same crime, same language, same chaos and same levels of respect.
What if you have children and cannot afford private schooling, would you prefer to subject them to a forced CC system or leave to a country that does not impose that, or where private schooling is cheaper.
This best country in the world is rapidly changing, people are voting for the wrong reasons, academia is poisoned with anti American professors, specifically those who were unhappy with Vietnam. Slowly progressives are changing this great nation into a fully unionized country that will leave too many broke and unemployed. Government continues to grow at massive levels involved in every single aspect of American lives.
If this direction doesn't change soon the same way it was hard for third world immigrants to get visas it will be the exact opposite.
What your really saying is many dream of living off others in a welfare state. That has France shows leads to dependency that is hard to get away from. Too few can only support too many for so long even with borrowing its children's future away.
It could have something to do with being fed all the BS day in and day with the nationalized media. Perhaps its the fact that the government is forcing us into a third world nation with 10 times the prices. For example would you rather live in Colombia where a root canal of the same quality cost $150.00 as opposed to a $1,200 root canal in the states which is quickly becoming the same third world nation, same crime, same language, same chaos and same levels of respect.
What if you have children and cannot afford private schooling, would you prefer to subject them to a forced CC system or leave to a country that does not impose that, or where private schooling is cheaper.
This best country in the world is rapidly changing, people are voting for the wrong reasons, academia is poisoned with anti American professors, specifically those who were unhappy with Vietnam. Slowly progressives are changing this great nation into a fully unionized country that will leave too many broke and unemployed. Government continues to grow at massive levels involved in every single aspect of American lives.
If this direction doesn't change soon the same way it was hard for third world immigrants to get visas it will be the exact opposite.
Not all are just ditching their US passports/citizenship.
Many are getting their ducks all lined up "just in case" as they say.
Having 2 passports and having reignited family ties in other countries is a valid "plan b".
Lots of Americans here have dual citizenship due to family descent.
Sure it's a trickle now mostly due to taxes. But once that trickle turns into a constant flow it will not ebb.
What you will see then is "money flight" even from the middle class who just can't survive under the tax burden.
Scotland gives Americans secessionist ideas. Almost one-quarter of people polled were open to idea of their state leaving the United States.
Scottish voter rejected seceding from the United Kingdom last week but what if states in the U.S. were presented with the same option? A new Reuters poll shows many American voters wouldn't made a similar choice if presented with that option here. One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why? | Jim Gaines
People rarely eager to leave or separate from the state in which they live comfortably. United States - the richest and strongest state in the world, and such desire, in theory, should be minimal. Is it true? http://media.cagle.com/53/2012/11/13/122314_600.jpg
Count me as wanting to leave. I might still do it in a few years. Only thing holding me back is family. This is not the US I grew up in. I'm ashamed of our foreign policy and things we do like steal from Americans to give to foreigners and spill American blood for foreigners. Like watching Titanic.
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