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Old 03-01-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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There's no way for the government to enforce it. Women that are inexperienced in the game and those already working in brothels, will go the "government route" in a taxed, regulated brothel. Women that make good money independently aren't going to pay taxes. Why would they? You can't really enforce the independent contractor woman.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Of course prostitution should be legalized.

It is a victimless institution. And please do not hand me the "Oh....what about the poor women who do it an become drug addicts?" Or, "But what about the families it ruins when the husband is caught?"

Please.

No one forces the women to do drugs. That is rather, what we call in debate circles, a "corollary" as opposed to a "causal" dynamic.

And the husband caught cheating is neither the fault of the prostitutes. He would just go elsewhere to find someone to cheat with if that is his intention.

The government could legalize it and even run it, as a sort of escort service. This would add to the tax-base and also provide potential employment for young women.

Sex is legal among consenting adults? So why not prostitution? Which is the very same thing? Money changing hands should be a non-factor. Are we not living in a Free Market, capitalist society?

I believe we will find that very few women are in favor of legalizing it. Hmm..I wonder why? Well, I know why, and while I am not going to divulge it yet, I can certainly tell you their reasons are not what they claim them to be.

It is the same reason why so many women like to see the legal "age of consent" pushed up higher and higher in their respective countries. Back before suffrage, it was not uncommon for a 15 year-old girl to marry a man in his late 20s. In fact, families began worrying their daughter might become an "old maid" by that age if no potential suitors were on the horizon.

So..the common factor here? The reason you will find a dearth of females supporting the subject of this thread?

LOL. It's called "competition."

Just think. if prost. was legalized, and continued to pay well, we would see some very hot young women doing it! And by the same token, how is a 30 year-old woman supposed to compete with a tight-little-bodied 16 year-old nymphette?

Not very well.

So.........Do you guys honestly believe the average unmarried woman--or even married woman wants that?

Me thinks not.

Just my two cents.

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Old 03-03-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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It should be legalized for the simple reason that the sum total of the social and financial benefits and costs of legalization are greater (re: benefits) and less (re: costs) than of continued prohibition.

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Old 03-03-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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For many years before the 20th century brothels were licensed and taxed. We are one of the last 1st world nations that it is still illegal. The only debatable reason it is still illegal here is a religious one and that should not be a deciding factor.
There are teenage girls being kidnapped and forced into prostitution. How would legalization help them? Women are brought in from other countries for the same reason. I believe many women may get involved with this who have serious mental health issues over past sexual abuse or maybe drug problems. They need help not a legal license. When they get that help many would choose a better life for themselves.

Yes there are probably women and men who are in it for the money. To each his or her own but they are not the majority. It is true prostitution is demeaning to women. Would legalization of something bad make the problems with it better?
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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I am not morally opposed to decriminalization but the reality is this.

If we continue with the current system, the working girls get 100% of their money (minus a commission paid to their "broker", "facilitator" or, in increasingly smaller numbers, "pimps").

If we allow the government to take over, prices will rise, which will hurt the working girl's business (most are not $10,000 per night call girls). Instead of the girl getting 100% of the money, minus her brokerage fee, she will have to share a percentage off the top with government (as their cut of the action) and THEN pay income taxes on the remainder. She might even have to send out 1099s to her customers so that the IRS stays happy.

Too much trouble will result from government involvement. The girls seem to be able to handle things on their own.

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Financial Analyst and independent business owner here. You send a 1099 to another entity that you are paying money to, not receiving money from. Since she would not be paying the Johns, she would not be sending them 1099s.

They would not be sending 1099s to her unless she was being hired explicitly for a business function and it was being categorized under the "meals and entertainment" expense category for a 50% write off.

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Old 03-04-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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How many men currently look at marriage as a contract trading sex for financial support and how many women consider it a decent deal? Many marriages started on "true love (or lust)" devolve into financial deals as to who makes the money and who takes care of the kids and the house.

Much of the objection to prostitution is from people trapped into the conventional contract and really wonder what would happen if a person could simply trade money for sex without all the rest of the baggage. The religious objection could be based on the observation the prostitution disconnects sex from procreation and lack of children threatens the church.

I wonder what would happen if the Nevada rules were adopted by the east coast cities like Washington DC? That would be interesting to watch.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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While I would hate for my husband to go to a prostitute, I don't understand why it's fine to have sex with anyone you want FOR FREE...but add money to the equation, and it's a crime. Makes no sense! It has nothing to do with religion, or anything...women do it FOR FREE on the 1st date! I just don't understand why money makes it wrong....when doing it for free isn't a crime!

Someone...explain!
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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I don't like dogs and horses being used for monetary gain. I'm sure as heck not into using women like commodities. Plus trafficking is so rampant in this world, including this country. How distasteful, disgusting, and disrespectful.
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Old 03-07-2015, 11:30 PM
 
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I don't like dogs and horses being used for monetary gain. I'm sure as heck not into using women like commodities. How distasteful, disgusting, and disrespectful.
The women would be CHOOSING to be a commodity. They would WANT to be used for monetary gain in this scenario. Many women have sex with men after the guy buys them dinner and a few drinks. What's the difference between gifts and actual cash?

The main reason it isn't legal in most places is because it would be near impossible to regulate and tax for maximum govt profit. Well that, and the fact that guys would no longer have to buy legal gifts for women and deal with drama, when they could just go to a sex worker and use cash without the drama. There'd be a positive attitude and entitlement change REAL QUICK for the modern American woman when she sees her inflated value drop off the cliff.
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Old 03-09-2015, 09:05 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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It would certainly change dating dynamics. Younger men (that are happy being single) with decent income, but lacking the ability to consistently pick up women for one-night stands or simple dates would be the biggest clients along with married older men.

Night clubs are full of young dudes trying to impress the ladies. Most guys succeed occasionally, while a few walk away with someone every night and the rest never get as much as a phone number. The "supply" side is controlled by the younger ladies while the "demand" side is controlled by men.

The average age of first marriage would probably go up a couple of years. The desire for sex and companionship is strong and if you can pay for it during your early to mid 20's...as a man...you'll do that; at least for a while.
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