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Old 03-13-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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it always has been.but it doesnt go along state borders, for instance i grew up in NW indiana and though we were hoosiers most of indiana treated us like we were part of chicago, and we were , we had nothing in common with indiana.Rural illinois has more in common with rural indiana than it has with big illinois cities.
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:27 PM
 
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I wish
I live in Texas and I have absolutely nothing to do with Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, New York or Miami.

Might as well be a different country.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Not to mention when the federal government passes huge legislation like Obamacare or the Americans with Disabilities Act is the fact the federal government passes these laws and then tells the states to "figure it out" on how to pay for these programs. States can't print money and so you get higher taxes and cuts in state programs so they can afford these type of programs. The devil is really in the details here. To be fair both Republican and Democrat Presidents and Congresses controlled by both parties have done this. You can't run a country like the United States as unitary nation you got run it as a federation. That means powers between the federal government and the state governments and not just the federal government getting it's way all the time.
Lawd hab mercy. Not every state expanded Medicaid in this matter. Every state decides their own healthcare funding and welfare models. They are not the same across all states. All very different. The same with minimum wages. Obama care doesn't effect every State. There are still at least 13 or more states who don't participate. That means no Obamacare in that State.

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Old 03-16-2015, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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I have to agree that I believe that the federal government, including the supreme court, needs to deal with just federal issues..period. If this state or that state wants to legalize or keep marijuana illegal, it is up to the voting citizens of that state. The fed should keep its nose out. And it shouldn't go around striking down laws that states established defining marriage. Where in the constitution does it mention this? Let the states deal with it. No, instead like some posters mentioned, it is becoming a one-size fits all country. We have an activist supreme court and there is no place to flee anymore except outside the country.
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Old 03-16-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Looking at the USA now it seems like states have become so different from each other in their laws, rules and attitudes that they are becoming more like a group of small countries not a united group of states in the same country. Will this change in the future as more laws seem to be passed in each state that agree with each or will it get worse? And is this difference between states a good thing or a bad thing?

Laws and attitudes on abortion, gay rights, bankruptcy,smoking, healthcare, guns,marijuana,language spoken, real estate prices, and so many other things are so different from one state to another you really have to do serious research before moving anywhere .

The weather already is very different from the North to the South and the East to the West. Arizona desert areas look like a different planet ( although a beautiful one ) compared to somewhere like Connecticut but the rest is also changing. Maybe it has always been this way or maybe it is getting worse. Should we try to make the USA more the same in thoughts and rules and come together in agreement on issues or should we separate the laws and attitudes apart even more and set up more differences ? In the future what is the USA you want to see?
I for one have always advocated to do away with states rights especially the more simpler things where nationalization of such would make sense. Say driver licenses, auto registration, liquor laws, LLC's, etc. to name a few.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I for one have always advocated to do away with states rights especially the more simpler things where nationalization of such would make sense. Say driver licenses, auto registration, liquor laws, LLC's, etc. to name a few.

I can see your point on such matters . Isn't it true that it is often difficult to track criminals or get hold of your medical records because the national computer databases are lacking information or may be outdated and need updating. Here is an example.

RI records lacking in national gun check database - 7News Boston WHDH-TV

I do believe though that while at times frustrating some of the differences from one state to another are kind of fun.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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No; its returning to much as the Founding Father saw it a union of states with states controlling many of the laws to avoid conflicts by differences.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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No; its returning to much as the Founding Father saw it a union of states with states controlling many of the laws to avoid conflicts by differences.
That would be political chaos. What happens when there is too many discordances?
It will be the cacophony, just like for the EU .

There is always a need to find the right midpoint between too much centralization and full decentralization. The federation is a right trade off and some items would require more harmonization. The drivers license topic is one... what's the real need to have one by state in a world where people travel all over the place?
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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An interesting thought. It seem like states now try to build around their one/two major cities. The suburbs are connected to those cities, and because sports are so big, people now have an extra affinity for their cities/state. Most state universities are pretty good, especially when you consider the cost of college now. After college, many are so familiar with their state that it's hard to leave. The states develop unique attributes, so the they can seem like mini-countries.
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Old 06-17-2015, 04:21 AM
 
Location: USA
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more over its like the traffic rules not same for all vehicles,states are like vehicles, advanced states highly notified rules then other,
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