To Circumcise or Not to Circumcise......that's the question! (bias, million, Alaska)
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The fact that the OVERWHELMING majority of men in this world do not have this procedure somewhat questions its legitimacy, doesn't it? I don't see how an intelligent person could say otherwise.
Overwhelming???
I think you are wrong.
The majority of men in the world are not circumcised, but a very significant number of men - a billion or more - are. It's not just about the Muslim men and Jewish men and African men, but in all countries in the world there are a sizable percentage of men that are. In countries besides the US such Mexico, Australia, Argentina, etc. circumcision is not uncommon and fairly widespread ... especially amongst the upper classes.
The majority of men in the world are not circumcised, but a very significant number of men - a billion or more - are. It's not just about the Muslim men and Jewish men and African men, but in all countries in the world there are a sizable percentage of men that are. In countries besides the US such Mexico, Australia, Argentina, etc. circumcision is not uncommon and fairly widespread ... especially amongst the upper classes.
According to the World Health Organization, central and South America see < 20%. To me, that's not widespread.
Uh, first you have to offer a source that would apply to all the non-religious or 'other-religioned' boys this affects.
For me, the source you picked that up from isn't any more valid than The Wizard of Oz.
You don't get to change the rules. Defend your point, or butt back out (since you butted in to begin with).
Only Muslims and Jews do it here (and the tiny percentage of males that actually need it done for medical reasons). Its not recommended by our health authority (nor many other health authorities), only in cases when it is medically necessary. There has even been attempts to prosecute parents for getting it done.
It is an unnecessary procedure and the only benefits it gives can be easily achieved also with showering and using a condom. Except for penile cancer which is an extremely rare cancer anyway so the risks outweigh the benefits.
And personally, I think cut ones look weird.
Yes. Pretty much not in favor in any westernized country outside of U.S.
The fact that the OVERWHELMING majority of men in this world do not have this procedure somewhat questions its legitimacy, doesn't it? I don't see how an intelligent person could say otherwise.
It is a logical fallacy to argue that just because something is common, it must be good/right/acceptable/moral/repeated/etc.
You don't get to change the rules. Defend your point, or butt back out (since you butted in to begin with).
Oh dear! I didn't know this was a closed conversation. Where do I have to sign up to be allowed in?
The point, BTW, since you didn't seem able to get it, is that a reason given on the basis of some text from the writings of one specific book and directed at one specific segment of a people constitutes an invalid viewpoint for all others.
There must be a lot of really young persons posting in this thread including you(OR haven't seen many penises) ... from the 40's to the 70's is was indeed the "norm" in the US for boys to be circumcised.
You would be hard pressed to find many males that are now in their 50's or 60's that are NOT circumcised, do you have the idea this is something "NEW" being forced on parents like all those evil vaccinations?
I'm 60 and concur. I was only aware of one boy at my large high school who was not. He was born in Germany to a German mother. An BTW, swim suits were optional in my junior high swimming classes.
Male circumcision is only popular in North America and many countries where the benefits actually do make sense (countries with less access to condoms amongst the poorer segments of society, same with clean washing facilities) and traditions are still very important (female circumcision is also popular in many of these countries) but in most developed countries, where these things aren't an issue, circumcision is not popular (never was in many countries).
So although its widespread in some developing countries it is definitely not widespread in the developed world.
It is a logical fallacy to argue that just because something is common, it must be good/right/acceptable/moral/repeated/etc.
After all, most lemmings run off of a cliff...
Why does anyone care if a child's parents choose circumcision for their child?
It's not your kid.
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