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Old 04-18-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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The most the pill would cost is $50 a month. If you cannot afford $50 a month, you should be focused on making money instead of having sex. How anyone expects someone else to pay for them to have sex is beyond me.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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You can get herpes from kissing someone or sharing a cup. Condoms and other birth control has nothing to do with that. And ALL birth control can fail. Even for a woman who has had her tubes tied, there's no guarantee she won't get pregnant.

How many ways are there to prevent pregnancy? Abstinence, maybe. We already know this doesn't work. And since an STD like herpes infects 1 in 6 people, a woman's (or a man's!) chance of contracting this during rape is high. In that case, it doesn't matter how abstinent the woman is.

Condoms, IF a man will wear them, are a good choice, although they also have a fail rate. Most men don't like to wear them, though, and if a woman is with an abuser, he's more than likely to refuse to put one on and will then give her a slap across the face for suggesting it again.

Vasectomies? Good birth control, but most men who get them are already married and most of the time, married men are not the problem. OK, a lot of the time married men are not the problem.

Contraception is expensive sometimes. IUDs can cost up to $1000. How many young girls in high school can afford that?

As for the morning after pill, that has to be given out by a pharmacist. If a woman lives in a small town with limited pharmacies where the pharmacist, because of his religious beliefs, refuses to dispense a morning after pill, the woman is basically out of luck preventing that pregnancy. Recently there was an article about a woman who was miscarrying and who took a prescription into a pharmacist for a medication that would help her finish miscarrying. The pharmacist refused to fill it because of his religious beliefs. Similar stories have women sometimes visiting several pharmacies to get their doctor prescribed medications filled because of some pharmacists who like to play God.


Women's clinics are being closed down because of state mandated draconian rules and absurd requirements. Some of the Planned Parenthoods need to have their patients escorted from their cars to the front door because of protestors, regardless of why the patient is there. A patient may be at a clinic to get birth control only, and find her name and address is listed on a web page somewhere because she visited the clinic. Clinics have been bombed and so there is an element of fear in going in to some clinics to get birth control.

Most women who inquire about getting their tubes tied meet doctor after doctor who refuse to believe them when they say they don't want any (more) children. A woman trying to get her tubes tied before she's thirty, married, and has already had several children is close to impossible. Yet it's the young, unmarried women we're worried about becoming single mothers living in poverty.

Rhythm? We know that doesn't work or so many Catholics wouldn't be using the pill.

The pill can be complicated to use and doesn't often work when women have an irregular cycle. The pill can cause blood clots in women, especially those that smoke. And it also has a fail rate. Many women using the pill have become pregnant.

To the OP, it's not like people don't like to use birth control, especially when it comes to birth control for women. They don't use it mostly it's because they can't find it, can't afford it, can't get it prescribed, can't get it dispensed, or can't get some cooperation from their partner.
You are really making excuses for people. I have told guys I willing dump them if they don't use condoms. If you use birth control properly it will work. You need finds the right kind of birth control for you.
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Old 04-18-2015, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Rhythm? We know that doesn't work or so many Catholics wouldn't be using the pill.
You'd be surprised! Fertility awareness methods don't work as well as the pill and they take more work and self control, but they actually work better then most people realize. One year pregnancy rates for rhythm are 0.1-9% with perfect use, and 25% with typical use, vs. 1% for oral hormonal contraception with perfect use, and 8% with typical use. Standard days is a bit better, 4.8-5% perfect, 8-25% typical, and cervical mucus based methods are 4% perfect for the two-day method with 14% for typical use, and 0.5-3% perfect for Billings ovulation method, with 3-22.3% typical.

So, not great, but it's not quite accurate to say they don't work. They're definitely better then nothing at all. If someone had cost concerns I'd go with the copper IUD. I know someone in one of the other posts was saying they're expensive, but at least where I live they're a big savings if you use them for any extended period of time if you compare the costs of other methods. It's an investment, and one that's worth it for most people, even with insurance. I think many people are intimidated by the prospect of going to get it inserted, and to that I'd say make sure you go to a physician experienced with the procedure, who's done many of them, and keep in mind that it's actually a more "natural" and local method then hormonal birth control, and so doesn't have the same chance of side effects. If I had a uterus? I'd shell out for the hormonal IUD and stop having periods, that's what me and my partner (both pharmacy students) chose.
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Old 04-18-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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You can get FREE birth control from clinics if you have them near you...if the small Southern town I grew up in had them, I think most places probably do. You can also get FREE condoms from these places. Also, if a guy refuses to wear a condom? Why would you bother! I'm not getting stuck with a kid because some POS won't wear a rubber.
I think the problem is lack of education, laziness, and the thought of 'it won't happen to me'. I have a cousin who has 5 kids by 4 different men, and is on all kinds of welfare. Her reason for no birth control? Laziness. She can't set an alarm to remind her to take a pill on her (free) phone. She isn't 'comfortable' with other methods and 'dislikes' condoms.

You're right that birth control is never 100% full proof, and unless you have a condom on you aren't preventing STDs. But using these methods (which are pretty darn effective, even though it isn't perfect) is better than the alternative.
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Old 04-18-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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Many people complain about tax dollars covering birth control, but it is MUCH cheaper to fund birth control than it is to fund a child.
It would seem the people who can't afford to fund a child need to take note of this, if they can't afford the contraception maybe they shouldn't have sex.
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Old 04-18-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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All forms of birth control have pros and cons regarding effectiveness, cost, inconvenience, perceived effects on comfort and spontaneity. Some you have to remember to use...and only condoms do much at all to prevent sti's.

A lot of things are logical intellectually, but practically speaking there are many barricades to use - it takes mature people to plan and budget for safe sex.
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Birth control fails all the time. All the time. Even a tubal ligation isn't 100% as there have been cases of the fallopian tubes growing back together and women becoming pregnant when they were told they could not. Look, with human beings nothing is ever "simple" and that includes everything tied up with sex, birth control included.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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Birth control fails all the time. All the time. Even a tubal ligation isn't 100% as there have been cases of the fallopian tubes growing back together and women becoming pregnant when they were told they could not. Look, with human beings nothing is ever "simple" and that includes everything tied up with sex, birth control included.
Sure, but the failure rate of properly used BC pills, IUDs and implants are MUCH lower than the accidental pregnancy rate. I don't see what your point is.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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If you can't afford the "fancy" birth control, why can't one buy a box of condoms at the very least (even the non-laytex for the allergenic) if they don't want to end up pregnant?

Doesn't feel good "physically or emotionally"….will having a kid you can't afford feel good in any way shape or form?

Children, no matter how much "help" someone gets from any form of social welfare, will cost more per month than using a condom every time you have sex. And learn how to put them on correctly. When they "break"…. stop. Sorry if it ruins the "mood" but a screaming infant will always ruin the mood.

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Old 04-18-2015, 09:33 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Condoms is considered birth control in my book which protects from STI. I make guys wear it. I am the hormonal birth control.
Condoms don't protect completely from STD's. Only the part covered by the condom is protected. STD's can, and do, lurk in the parts not covered by the condom. Women have gotten herpes from men who use condoms. People usually don't use any protection when engaging in oral sex, which also spreads STD's.

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