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Old 08-01-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's being said that Planned Parenthood needs to abolished ( as for me it needs to be sent to the abyss of hell) except for a few unforseen desperately needed woman's services beyond the diabolical gruesome butchering of fetuses albeit by a network of filthy( not all) second chance physicians! So before millions of women many near poverty can transition to the untested Obama Care , we must not overtask a system that has yet to prove it's capacity ,availability, and cost outcomes. Perhaps creating a test pocket in LA or NYC just to see if these women can get pap smears, HIV testing, labs and ultrasounds that this flawed agency is providing? I worry about job placement for employees (thousands) who are low income workers simply seeking employment not involved with dismembering our future who work for Planned Parenthood.

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Old 08-01-2015, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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After this, it's hard to take your "cause" seriously:

"sent to the abyss of hell"

"the diabolical gruesome butchering of fetuses"

"a network of filthy( not all) second chance physicians"

You don't win neutral people to your cause by using hyperbole like this.
 
Old 08-01-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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PP abortion is 3% of their services. don't like abortion? don't have one. women in America have the right to choice.
your values should not infringe on a woman's right to control her reproduction as she sees fit.
 
Old 08-01-2015, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Sorry. I can't take your thread seriously for the reasons stated above. Given all the hysterical hyperbole (is that redundant??) in the OP, I'd say this thread will be moved to P&OC in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
 
Old 08-01-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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In 2011 332,964 abortions with a paycheck of 542.4 million or 45.2% of all services!

In 2012 327,166 abortions. total services unavailable

Through 2012 3,225,030 abortions out of 10, 933, 765 services 30% were abortions

Other stats available but my push back is enough.
 
Old 08-01-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Originally Posted by openmike View Post
In 2011 332,964 abortions with a paycheck of 542.4 million or 45.2% of all services!

In 2012 327,166 abortions. total services unavailable

Through 2012 3,225,030 abortions out of 10, 933, 765 services 30% were abortions

Other stats available but my push back is enough.
Name your source....your stats are worthless otherwise.
 
Old 08-02-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
PP abortion is 3% of their services. don't like abortion? don't have one. women in America have the right to choice.
your values should not infringe on a woman's right to control her reproduction as she sees fit.
Not liking abortions can mean nipping the problem before it's even in the bud, meaning keep your legs closed unless you want to have a baby.
 
Old 08-02-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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Not liking abortions can mean nipping the problem before it's even in the bud, meaning keep your legs closed unless you want to have a baby.
yes sex education and free birth control would do wonders. I hope you also advocate that men keep their zippers up as well. using birth control and education is a far better way then just telling people not to have sex. humans are programed to be sexual. even women. we too are allowed to have sex for fun. saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy. thankfully in this day and age we have the right to control our reproductive organs anyway we see fit.
 
Old 08-02-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Abortion is one of the issues where I part with my fellow right wingers. I really don't care about abortion one way or the other. I guess in a general sense I'm "pro-life" in that I don't think abortion should be used as birth control or just for convenience's sake. I do think it should remain legal though, because I support the right for women to use it to save their lives, in the case of rape, incest, or if the child will have physical, mental, or developmental disabilities.

I think most pro-life legislation is misguided because the most universally condemned abortions, other than 3rd trimester, are abortions of convenience. Yet most pro-life legislation aims to ban abortion after 20-24 weeks when in reality almost no women are getting abortions of convenience after that time period so it seems counterproductive to their aims. Most women after 20 weeks, if they get an abortion, are doing so because the child may face disabilities or to save the mother's life in the case of child birth complications.

In reality most women are not getting abortions of convenience anyway so I'm comfortable with the laws on the books.
 
Old 08-04-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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To me planned parenthood was about birth control to prevent pregnancy. I think abortion is a totally different thing. No planning obviously took place to prevent the pregnancy to start with. I don't think they
belong together under "planned parenthood" and don't understand how all of a sudden they are lumped
together.
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