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I just saw yet another rant of a hardcore feminist about how men are oppressing women.
Have I got news for you: dear girls, you're doing it to yourself. Let me explain how.
Let's start with fashion:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr. I like women. Some of my male friends like men. I'm okay with that. More women for me.
I like healthy women. You know, who look like women look like. With breasts. And hips.
Unfortunately, you seem to think I like stick insects. With arms as thin as my fingers, flat bodies and no butt whatsoever.
You are wrong. The person who thinks you should look like that has a very big chance of being gay. Because the majority of fashion designing men are gay. And that's a fact.
So let me ask you a question, who do you think has a better understanding of how women should look like?
Right. So stop looking at beauty magazines, and start looking into the playboy. You'll feel a lot better about yourself.
Gender roles:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr and I'm unable to give birth. I would like to, but I can't. My wife stayed home for a year after giving birth to each of our sons. Not because I asked her to, but because she wanted to. If he would have chosen to go back to work. I would have stopped working. It's just more convenient if the person who has the biological tools to do the job actually does it. You know, with newborn babies you take all the perks you can get. It's hard enough as it is.
I don't have daughters. I only have sons. But my brother only has daughters and there is a difference. I can let my teenage sons go out without being fearful of rapists. They are bigger and stronger than me and anyone thinking they might want to molest them is going to have a really bad time. On the other hand, my brother can't let his daughters go out by themselves. Because they are physically not as strong as their possible assailants.
That is a problem, and if I were to choose, I'd castrate every Moderator cut: language molester in the world. I admit that is a male flaw.
But there is an outside factor that means we, as fathers, have to treat our sons and daughters differently.
Glass ceiling:
Hi my name is Beachrr, and my wife chose to stop working at some point.
Because she wanted to. And because the money I was making was enough for all of us. And because she preferred to be at home and enjoy the garden in the summer and doing some renovation work in the winter (yup, she was strong as an ox).
Did I want her to stop. No. She chose it by herself.
So how is the position of women all my fault?
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I agree with you OP.
Women are amazing but they do cause many of their own problems that they do complain about.
Fashion: Just look at the covers of magazines the models are often air brushed beyond what is possible in the human form but some women still see that look as a goal to achieve and they chase it thinking that it is what men want.
I would rather have my wife be happy than stick thin.
Gender Roles: It is so true that women have to be careful everywhere they go because there are men (and other women) that would take advantage of them if they had a chance. It is just how it is but we can't keep our women locked up because of fear of the unknown. They do that in the middle east.
Glass Ceiling: Women are as smart as men and actually smarter in many ways but the fact is a women can get pregnant which is amazing but it kind of puts a kink in the career.
Not every man is the same and that goes for women too. Some love the traditional gender roles while others hate it. What can you do but roll with the punches.
Women are often their own toughest critics.
I just saw yet another rant of a hardcore feminist about how men are oppressing women.
Have I got news for you: dear girls, you're doing it to yourself. Let me explain how.
Let's start with fashion:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr. I like women. Some of my male friends like men. I'm okay with that. More women for me. I like healthy women. You know, who look like women look like. With breasts. And hips.
Unfortunately, you seem to think I like stick insects. With arms as thin as my fingers, flat bodies and no butt whatsoever.
You are wrong. The person who thinks you should look like that has a very big chance of being gay. Because the majority of fashion designing men are gay. And that's a fact.
So let me ask you a question, who do you think has a better understanding of how women should look like?
Right. So stop looking at beauty magazines, and start looking into the playboy. You'll feel a lot better about yourself.
Gender roles:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr and I'm unable to give birth. I would like to, but I can't. My wife stayed home for a year after giving birth to each of our sons. Not because I asked her to, but because she wanted to. If he would have chosen to go back to work. I would have stopped working. It's just more convenient if the person who has the biological tools to do the job actually does it. You know, with newborn babies you take all the perks you can get. It's hard enough as it is.
I don't have daughters. I only have sons. But my brother only has daughters and there is a difference. I can let my teenage sons go out without being fearful of rapists. They are bigger and stronger than me and anyone thinking they might want to molest them is going to have a really bad time. On the other hand, my brother can't let his daughters go out by themselves. Because they are physically not as strong as their possible assailants.
That is a problem, and if I were to choose, I'd castrate every f*cking molester in the world. I admit that is a male flaw.
But there is an outside factor that means we, as fathers, have to treat our sons and daughters differently.
Glass ceiling:
Hi my name is Beachrr, and my wife chose to stop working at some point.
Because she wanted to. And because the money I was making was enough for all of us. And because she preferred to be at home and enjoy the garden in the summer and doing some renovation work in the winter (yup, she was strong as an ox).
Did I want her to stop. No. She chose it by herself.
So how is the position of women all my fault?
OP, it seems your post ended up saying the exact opposite conclusion of the point you thought you were making. First off, you sound like a great husband, so I applaud you for being supportive to your wife and sons. And although it's great that you like healthy looking women, not all men like that in a woman. Many men don't. So these men may put a lot of pressure on women to lose excessive amounts of weight. And men usually don't have that pressure to lose the weight that women have. Especially after childbirth, I might add. As an aside, I don't know why people think the majority of fashion designers are gay. There is no evidence to support this conclusion, and even if there is, what does that have to do with feminism?
Secondly, many women go back to work after having a baby and their husbands are also working due to economic necessity. Both partners have to work. It's not about desire. And many men wouldn't want to stay home with the baby because they would feel emasculated in such a role. But once again, I applaud you for being willing to take on this role should your wife want that.
Last, women are vulnerable to rape and men are not. That of course is something that isn't a woman's fault, and that is something that won't change, so that is something that can never be the result of feminism or lack thereof.
As an aside, I don't know why people think the majority of fashion designers are gay. There is no evidence to support this conclusion, and even if there is, what does that have to do with feminism?
I think it has to do with women getting cues on desired standard of beauty from the fashion industry. If the designers are gay, they don't really care if the women are attractive. They are just interested in finding a woman who can act as an animate clothes hanger and not outshine the clothing they took so much effort to create. If their actual looks matter they only matter as to how they can compliment the clothing. Often clothing that nobody would wear in day to day life and was probably not designed to make a woman look attractive from a man's point of view in the first place.
I just saw yet another rant of a hardcore feminist about how men are oppressing women.
Have I got news for you: dear girls, you're doing it to yourself. Let me explain how.
Let's start with fashion:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr. I like women. Some of my male friends like men. I'm okay with that. More women for me.
I like healthy women. You know, who look like women look like. With breasts. And hips.
Unfortunately, you seem to think I like stick insects. With arms as thin as my fingers, flat bodies and no butt whatsoever.
You are wrong. The person who thinks you should look like that has a very big chance of being gay. Because the majority of fashion designing men are gay. And that's a fact.
So let me ask you a question, who do you think has a better understanding of how women should look like?
Right. So stop looking at beauty magazines, and start looking into the playboy. You'll feel a lot better about yourself.
Gender roles:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr and I'm unable to give birth. I would like to, but I can't. My wife stayed home for a year after giving birth to each of our sons. Not because I asked her to, but because she wanted to. If he would have chosen to go back to work. I would have stopped working. It's just more convenient if the person who has the biological tools to do the job actually does it. You know, with newborn babies you take all the perks you can get. It's hard enough as it is.
I don't have daughters. I only have sons. But my brother only has daughters and there is a difference. I can let my teenage sons go out without being fearful of rapists. They are bigger and stronger than me and anyone thinking they might want to molest them is going to have a really bad time. On the other hand, my brother can't let his daughters go out by themselves. Because they are physically not as strong as their possible assailants.
That is a problem, and if I were to choose, I'd castrate every Moderator cut: language molester in the world. I admit that is a male flaw.
But there is an outside factor that means we, as fathers, have to treat our sons and daughters differently.
Glass ceiling:
Hi my name is Beachrr, and my wife chose to stop working at some point.
Because she wanted to. And because the money I was making was enough for all of us. And because she preferred to be at home and enjoy the garden in the summer and doing some renovation work in the winter (yup, she was strong as an ox).
Did I want her to stop. No. She chose it by herself.
So how is the position of women all my fault?
Hi Beachrr, thanks for sharing what you boys think oppresses women.
Your rant is somewhat confusing. It would help to have a link to the hardcore feminist rant that got your knickers in a twist. If it helps, I don't know you an Im sure you had absolutely no influence on the events of my life.
I can appreciate that people are some times born with problems,
My brother was born with out left hand.
Dad did not allow him to be coddled or babied and he turned out to be a very successful businessman .
One of the most intelligent people I know.
People can be cultured to failure or success , people can choose failure or success in spite of their up bringing.
Women that choose to be worth something ,are worth something IF they have been putting forth the effort. and they are fun to be around.
Women that demand their worth however, and did not earn it, are no fun to be around .
The same holds true with men as well.
Women that have a shape but it's all fat and no firmness ,did not achieve it with discipline and consequently easily loose that shape as they age and gain weight and weight related illnesses and injuries.
They don't think of their children's future and the example they are to them.
So the problem is perpetuated .
Children tend to fallow the worst of the parents examples.
Men don't tend to be as sedatary till after retirement, gaining weigh only then. (I'm working on it)
If I marry again , it will be some one that works out regularly, amongst other things.
Men don't tend to be as sedatary till after retirement, gaining weigh only then. (I'm working on it)
If I marry again , it will be some one that works out regularly, amongst other things.
Well thats not true. True women are biologically disposed to store and retain fat more so than men but there are plenty of fat and out of shape men at all age levels.
Hi Beachrr, thanks for sharing what you boys think oppresses women.
Your rant is somewhat confusing. It would help to have a link to the hardcore feminist rant that got your knickers in a twist. If it helps, I don't know you an Im sure you had absolutely no influence on the events of my life.
Well, it's not a post on the internet, but I was insulted by a woman when I was shopping and was looking at magazines (mind you, I was looking for the Eos, not for a porn mag). She called me a "white chauvinist male pig".
When I asked her what was wrong, she started accusing me of well, everything what's wrong today. And that got me thinking about my behavior. Did I really oppress women by just being me? I came to the conclusion I didn't.
I'm not saying we as men are totally free of blame, especially not in the area of sexual violence, but I believe women account for a large part of their own issues.
Men don't read fashion magazines and honestly, most of us don't really care about what women wear. And frankly, I think most supermodels look like sh*t. They look like boys!
I never asked my wife to dress a certain way. I never asked her to have kids and have a career. I never asked her to stay at home either. None of my white, male friends ever asked their wives/girlfriends to do that. My sons don't ask their wives/girlfriends to do that.
Of course we objectify women. Women objectify men as well. It's called sexual nature and I don't think that's much of a problem. I'm past the age to compete, but I've seen girls look at my sons the same way I look at women. It's like looking at a nice car or a beautiful piece of art.
I don't feel the need to measure myself to a guy with rock hard abs and a 5000$ suit. Why do women impose these things upon themselves?
I do concede on one major point, and that is the violence. Men have an advantage because they are generally physically stronger. But when it comes to all the other stuff, it's mostly biological differences nobody can do anything about.
Women are making things harder for themselves and blaming men for it. I think that's unfair.
I just saw yet another rant of a hardcore feminist about how men are oppressing women.
Have I got news for you: dear girls, you're doing it to yourself. Let me explain how.
Let's start with fashion:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr. I like women. Some of my male friends like men. I'm okay with that. More women for me.
I like healthy women. You know, who look like women look like. With breasts. And hips.
Unfortunately, you seem to think I like stick insects. With arms as thin as my fingers, flat bodies and no butt whatsoever.
You are wrong. The person who thinks you should look like that has a very big chance of being gay. Because the majority of fashion designing men are gay. And that's a fact.
So let me ask you a question, who do you think has a better understanding of how women should look like?
Right. So stop looking at beauty magazines, and start looking into the playboy. You'll feel a lot better about yourself.
Really? You mean looking at very thin women with no body hair, breast implant, heavy airbrushing and hair extensions will make me feel better about myself? Yeah, because that is totally realistic. That's why just anybody can pose for Playboy, right?
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Originally Posted by beachrr
Gender roles:
Hi Girls, my name is beachrr and I'm unable to give birth. I would like to, but I can't. My wife stayed home for a year after giving birth to each of our sons. Not because I asked her to, but because she wanted to. If he would have chosen to go back to work. I would have stopped working. It's just more convenient if the person who has the biological tools to do the job actually does it. You know, with newborn babies you take all the perks you can get. It's hard enough as it is.
Don't understand what this has to do with anything. That's a very short part of her life. WHat about the other 98% of her life? Were those gender roles done away with?
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Originally Posted by beachrr
I don't have daughters. I only have sons. But my brother only has daughters and there is a difference. I can let my teenage sons go out without being fearful of rapists. They are bigger and stronger than me and anyone thinking they might want to molest them is going to have a really bad time. On the other hand, my brother can't let his daughters go out by themselves. Because they are physically not as strong as their possible assailants.
Maybe we should raise boys to think that objectifying women or thinking they are less than men is wrong??? Just a thought. Maybe instead of telling women what they can't do (walk at night, etc.) we should tell men what they can't do. Maybe we shouldn't blame women for being raped because they were wearing the wrong thing, or even just walking out in public in a place or at a time when I guess people think women don't have a right to do that? Every time a woman is raped and thoughts drift to what she could have done differently, I challenge you to think whether you would feel the same way if the victim were a man raped by another man. Would you say, "Well, he was drunk?" Also, cat calling and the like are forms of harassment too. They are not innocent.
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Originally Posted by beachrr
That is a problem, and if I were to choose, I'd castrate every Moderator cut: language molester in the world. I admit that is a male flaw.
But there is an outside factor that means we, as fathers, have to treat our sons and daughters differently.
No, there's not. The only outside factor is the expectation that men just have no control over their actions, so women must just deal with living in fear and get over it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beachrr
Glass ceiling:
Hi my name is Beachrr, and my wife chose to stop working at some point.
Because she wanted to. And because the money I was making was enough for all of us. And because she preferred to be at home and enjoy the garden in the summer and doing some renovation work in the winter (yup, she was strong as an ox).
Did I want her to stop. No. She chose it by herself.
So how is the position of women all my fault?
So then how to you explain all of the data showing that women just graduating college (no kids, never left work) are paid / offered less money for the same job as men just graduating college? Same experience, no kids. Just a coincidence? Not every woman has kids, but many are still paid far less than their male counterparts. You can't argue with numbers.
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I never asked her to have kids and have a career. I never asked her to stay at home either. None of my white, male friends ever asked their wives/girlfriends to do that.
So this is only true of white men? How on God's green Earth does race even enter the equation?
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Originally Posted by beachrr
Of course we objectify women. Women objectify men as well. It's called sexual nature and I don't think that's much of a problem.
Right, because we all know that men have been demoralized, assaulted, and harassed by women for years. So it's obviously the same thing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beachrr
I don't feel the need to measure myself to a guy with rock hard abs and a 5000$ suit. Why do women impose these things upon themselves?
Why do you assume all women do this? I don't any more than you measure yourself to the guy driving the $100,000 car.
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Originally Posted by beachrr
I do concede on one major point, and that is the violence. Men have an advantage because they are generally physically stronger. But when it comes to all the other stuff, it's mostly
biological differences nobody can do anything about.
Um, how about we do something about men being violent instead of just throwing up our hands and saying, well, it's just something, "nobody can do anything about?"
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Originally Posted by beachrr
Women are making things harder for themselves and blaming men for it. I think that's unfair.
Right. Because women have always had the opportunity to vote, have never been considered property, and have always had legal protection from being physically beaten. Sexual harassment was never even legally recognized until 1977. Do you think that means it just never existed until then? No, it's just means it's was considered OK and "just something guys do." But you know, I'm sure everyone's attitude just magically changed overnight. It's not like people working in 1976 are still in the workforce or anything. Well, maybe there are a few. And maybe they aren't in leadership positions. Or maybe that's exactly where they are now. But I'm sure that now they think it's wrong. Maybe. Well, maybe they did it a little back in the day, but women should be flattered when someone grabs her ass, right? I'm sure if a gay guy kept grabbing your junk at work, you'd think that was flattering too. Women couldn't even get credit in their name until 1974. But I guess you can totally relate to that. Oh, wait...that's right, you and your father could always get credit. So maybe you don't understand how women are a few hundred years behind financially.
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