Will Hispanics reach "socio-economic" parity with Whites? (employment, border, compared)
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Fair enough, I should have clearified "non-Hispanic whites." Yes, Latino is an ethinicty not a race. But, from a sociological standpoint, Hispancis are considered to be a "minorities" OR "persons of color." While there are many Hispanic people like Charlie Sheen who are functionally white, the reality is that pretty much across the board, people who idenfity as Hispanic/Latino will have on average lower educational, income, wealth measures that whites (generally restricted to non-Hispanic whites).
Now, yes both of these reports obviously are written through a white privilage perspective and attribute the socio-economic gaps to racism/discrimination. Others may take issue with that and argue other factors like immigration patterns or somewhat nebulous ideas like habits/norms also play a role. But, the fact remans that on average Hispanics have on average lower social economic outcomes than non-Hispanic whites.
Since when has he identified as Hispanic. He is of partial Galican ancestry from the Iberian peninsula. The more I read comments on this forum it is clear that people have no clue what Hispanic, and Latino means in the US. Very very few Europeans in the US or descendendants of European ancestry that arrived directly from Spain identify as Hispanic/Latino in the US.
Since when has he identified as Hispanic. He is of partial Galican ancestry from the Iberian peninsula. The more I read comments on this forum it is clear that people have no clue what Hispanic, and Latino means in the US. Very very few Europeans in the US or descendendants of European ancestry that arrived directly from Spain identify as Hispanic/Latino in the US.
Ok, replace with Ted Cruz or any other very "white" looking Hispanic from Latin America. The broader point still stands. As of today, Hispanics have lower socio-economic outcomes than non-Hispanic whites on average. My question is do people think these will gradually narrow or not?
Ok, replace with Ted Cruz or any other very "white" looking Hispanic from Latin America. The broader point still stands. As of today, Hispanics have lower socio-economic outcomes than non-Hispanic whites on average. My question is do people think these will gradually narrow or not?
Yes over time, Hispanics/Latinos that are recent immigrants generally have a strong work ethic.
I am not of Hispanic/Latino ancestry but when I think of those immigrants that have not risen from my own ethnic group I do notice a pattern.
1. They embrace a working class status
2. Undervalue education
3. Often live in ethnic enclaves
4. Fail to learn standardized American English and mannerisms
5. Do not socialize with people outside of their ethnic group
6. Sometimes live in a cultural time wharp(Which would be the decade they immigrated from the host country)
The gap between white and hispanic is closing fairly fast not necessarly because of thinning economic polarities but because the two cultures actually have a lot of similarities and finding inter-marriage easy. A strong work ethic combined with a value on family unit, the white/hispanic bridge isn't that big. That, along with the biological fact there are large sections from each side actually physically attracted to each other.
Similarly how the Irish immigrants didn't necessarily rise to the top as a homogenous group but kind of married their way to the top with the British/German settlers already here.
From what I know. Whites and Asians put a big priority on education. Education is the key to the best jobs. The Hispanic community, in general, does not put a high value on education, so they will continue to lag behind economically, with Blacks continuing to bring up the rear.
As long as Mexicans have been part of the US it's amazing how none of them have launched a Presidential bid where they are the majority of Hispanics in the US whereas Cubans number only about 1 Million nationwide.
Bill Richardson, ex-governor of New Mexico, run for the Democratic bid in 2008. His father is half prototypical white American and half Mexican, his mother is Mexican, and though born in California, Bill lived in Mexico until age 13. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...c-factor/?_r=0
They will. Most immigrant groups started off on the bottom. Jews, Irish, Poles, Italians all came over and were at or near the bottom. But they took advantage of opportunity and worked their way up. Hispanics are the same as the other groups.
From what I know. Whites and Asians put a big priority on education. Education is the key to the best jobs. The Hispanic community, in general, does not put a high value on education, so they will continue to lag behind economically, with Blacks continuing to bring up the rear.
I read that Cyban Americans born in the US earn more money than so called angles.
I feel Hispanics will make their own destiny in this country and assimilation will be a bit different. They dont have any "Jim Crow" kind of laws prohibiting them from obtaining economic power amongst themselves so the sky is the limit. I envision the western part of the country being "mecca".
Does anyone think the U.S.'s accommodation of the Spanish language has much effect on the economic progress of Latinos?
I don't live in the States so I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of this thread (though it's fascinating). It just seems to me that back when the bulk of immigrants were coming from Europe, there would have been much more pressure for the migrant generation to become at least passably proficient in English, whereas contemporary Spanish-speaking immigrants are well-serviced in their first language. Almost anything one would need to read in America is available in Spanish, automatically or at least on demand.
Wouldn't this accommodation tend to limit an immigrant family's early economic progress in your country? I should think the ripple effects of this could be quite significant.
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