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c) doesn't happen often. There is a gender disparity in White-Asian relationships and part of that is because of the fetishization of Asian females by White males and the worship of Whites and self-hate by Asian females
Worship of White Males?? Self Hate by Asian females?? What a harsh observation. Have you studied and analyzed this issue to come to this conclusion???
I think liberals haven't gotten to the Asians yet because Asians typically don't whine and complain when things don't go their own way like the blacks and hispanics do with "movements" and rioting, etc.
If the liberals saw an opening to getting the Asian vote, you can be sure the liberals will go for it.
May as well take advantage of any crisis they can!
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
Both Hillary and Bernie are all about taking down the top earners/achievers and The Left likes to have people eating out of its hand.
Asians, as a group, have the highest median income of any racial group in the United States. Blacks, as a group, have the lowest; and Hispanics aren't too much higher. Whites, as a group, are closer in income to Asians. Thus, the groups shake out according to socio-economic status, with blacks and Hispanics aligning along income lines, and whites and Asians doing the same.
FWIW, Michelle Malkin has taken quite a lot of flack for her positions.
Or, c) specific individual Asian females fall in love with specific individual white men, based on such quaint notions as mutual attraction, shared interests, similar socio-economic backgrounds, etc., and date/marry each other accordingly.
This is simply not true.
Your laziness, or perhaps ignorance with the facts highlights the cause of these issues in the OP: a lack of education masquerading as wisdom. This leads to generalities seeping into the mainstream which then become 'facts'.
Case in point, some white liberals pressure some blacks to support 'liberal issues'. This stems from white supremacy - an all pervasive blight upon American and European culture. The essence of this is simply an extension of 'speaking down'; a paternalistic attitude by some whites regardless of political affiliation to all blacks.
With 'Hispanics', there are multiple complex issues in particular linked to color prejudice. Its not unknown and completely understandable for those outside the 'line of fire', to keep out of it. Some white-looking Hispanics do exactly this, many countries in South America are culturally based upon color prejudice, where lighter skin keeps you out of the line of fire.
Back to my original comment however;
Some very basic facts that should be self evident -
Asian Americans have come to the US as a whole, but are not a monolithic group. Some Asians, dependant upon what part of the world they come from, are poorer than African Americans.
Other Asians come to the US as students: they are a self selected group obviously and are destined to do economically well.
The Median incomes are taken by household. Asian families usually have more members per household who reside in their family homes even after finding full time work, longer than their white or African American counterparts. This means that their household income is recorded as higher, which hides an issue amongst many Asian families - a poverty, that the 'model minority myth' would say can't exist.
And to go back to Asian Americans, although they have a higher level of education than their white counterparts, they earn less per capita than their white counterparts. Which highlights how systemic racism affects everyone not white, even the would-be pets of white supremacy.
To move on to 'Black' people. This is where laziness begins. The most educated group in the United States are African Born immigrants to the US. AKA, black people. Like Asian Americans, Black people are not a monolithic group and to compare well-to-do students from Asia, Africa and a population that has enjoyed the preferential treatment of hundreds of years of White supremacy, to the descendants of slaves that continue to feel the affects of brutal ongoing discrimination in every facet of American society, is pure foolishness.
People are shaped by their environment and experiences. There is a greater chance of similar experiences shared by members of a disenfranchised group that on superficial inspection might delude some in thinking they can make a leap of understanding. This is often behind the patronising 'advice' and gentle 'prodding' of liberals and others into thinking that this group doesn't contain a multitude of views and can vary widely.
Its the sort of sweeping brush that they, like some posters in this thread, would hate to be used with them and/or those they are close to.
An amazing fact is why do Asians for for Democrats? They have a reputation for working hard, staying out of trouble, moving ahead in life and yet vote for the party that will attack them for those values and tax their success.
An amazing fact is why do Asians for for Democrats? They have a reputation for working hard, staying out of trouble, moving ahead in life and yet vote for the party that will attack them for those values and tax their success.
asians don't lean toward a particular party with a large margin. asians are a diverse group with big internal differences. some came here as rich people, while others work in kitchens.
asian groups also have different political leaning.
but it shouldn't be hard to understand why asians go for democrats in general. the GOP is obssessed with caterring to whites, often religious whites that most asians see nothing in common with. The Democrats don't even have to court asians. Many asians are well educated and are open minded. They tend to go with less racism, not more. Add to that, the democrats aren't hostile to business, technology, and the intelligent rich. So, in terms of money, asians won't lose much anyway.
There is also the general rhetorical propaganda by each party against the other. Many people have subscribed to these simplistic views of what each party represents and they vote accordingly.
This is something I always found rather mind boggling as a centrist-minded libertarian and a black man.
A lot of liberals, white or black, tend to put tremendous pressure on Black Americans to support amnesty, open borders, and mass immigration from Latin America under the guise that we're both minorities/people of color and that their issues are our issues.
I'm not denying that there are some parallels between our communities regarding poverty and what have you but why are ONLY Black Americans pressured to support the Hispanic community but not Asian Americans who are also minorities?
Why aren't Asian Americans pressured by liberals to form a "Brown/Yellow" coalition like Black Americans are, especially since, in California, these two groups are the largest minority groups.
Also, I notice when a black person doesn't support open borders, amnesty, etc., they're considered sell-outs or "uncle toms" by these same liberals yet Asian Americans like Michelle Malkin who's spoken out against the same ordeal are not scrutinized in the same manner.
Why is this the case?
One reason I can think of is that it's really not in African Americans' interest to embrace a policy that adds tremendously more labor to their skill level. Jobs are already scarce and life is hard for those at the lower economic level. Therefore, liberals have a pressing need to make African Americans support them through the racial lens, and not remind blacks how job competition becomes worse.
Many blacks also don't care much about employment opportunities, if they themselves have decided to rely on social assistance. in that case, they care about themselves and don't mind another person joining them. after all, this country won't collapse just because of that. if you are a low income striver, like many whites are, you are more likely to support the GOP and not the Democrats who offer economic and cultural opium to keep you at bay and eat from their hands.
Asians aren't usually at that skill level and they are seen as people who can think for themselves. Try tell an intelligent asian what you think they should do, they'll tell you to get lost. Many asians know their interests and stay focused to get what they want. Liberals hands-off them and go back to those blacks whom they can patronize.
The bottom of this is also a sense of white superiority, which often exists in liberal paternalism. As a minority, I've experienced such nasty, vicious display of white superiority. They think less of minorities, especially blacks. They can even be surprised if a minority or foreigner knows X, has Y, vacationed at Z, or owns whatever. They are not used to it, even though they give lip service to people of color.
I think liberals haven't gotten to the Asians yet because Asians typically don't whine and complain when things don't go their own way like the blacks and hispanics do with "movements" and rioting, etc.
If the liberals saw an opening to getting the Asian vote, you can be sure the liberals will go for it.
May as well take advantage of any crisis they can!
Of course they do, it's a way to control people!
Asians are a relatively small population, thus less of an electoral impact. This is why neither party has done much to asians. Many of them stay close to their communities, raise their family, make more money, buy a home, vacation, etc. They are the well to do, working on their presentation slides on the airplane, or visiting family across the pacific, or giving conference talks, etc. Many live in suburbs, which aren't particularly political. Generally speaking, if you are well to do, you are less likely to be politically motivated, unlike the Trump whites and racial activists.
Asians, as a group, also don't have strong opinions about social issues like gay marriage, feminism, single motherhood, etc. Most of them aren't gay. Most asian women do what they have always done, and they work and raise their family. Most of them have no single mothers in their world even. But they might say "the democrats want better things, and that makes sense, oh well, i don't care much, but i don't support the GOP craziness." But this doesn't mean that asians are strong activists for gay marriage or feminism.
On economic issues, many asians come from somewhat collectivist societies, where the family is everything. There is generally a sense of moral right or wrong, pride or shame in their education. This is why they aren't the posterchild of single motherhood, promiscuity, smoking pot, or just taking it easy. Their culture is one of strivers. Their government plays a bigger role than the american government. Hence, they naturally find the libertarian notion of liberty and individualism a foreign concept. In fact, it's already amazing that asians aren't more for the democrats. I suppose finanical interests play a big part in their votes.
on a different note, if you guys think asian women have a thing for white men and vice versa, you should take a look at asian gay men and white men. It's generally a stereotype, but it's even more so. There, size is another factor that plays into this whole interracial fantasy.
And some of the gay asian men are even more b***y than asian females. On one interview, an asian gay guy cried on TV: "I mean, I just love him, love him, love him" while quickly tappin his feet on the floor. A lot of white gay men even safely assumes that a gay asian person loves white c***. The asian gay men internal rejection is a high-school drama.
I was thinking the same thing. We have had 7 years with a President who has tried to pick up the minorities and give them a bigger seat at the table but despite his efforts they can't seem to get out of their own way.
They play the race card if something, anything doesn't go their way. They play the victim very well because victims don't have much responsibility for their own situation.
On the other side we have Asians that work hard and work smart to achieve.
Both Hillary and Bernie are all about taking down the top earners/achievers and making them pay their share to the bottom rung on the ladder of success.
It used to be part of the American Dream and it was true for many that if you work hard you will have success. Today many are saying why even try when the Gov. is giving me free stuff.
The Left likes to have people eating out of its hand.
there is a lot of truth to this. the left wants to control people and give them handouts. they don't really want to better these people, just making them complacent. it's a self perpetuating problem. they then point out: see this is a problem, we need more help. they solve the problem by sustaining it. otherwise, the left goes out of business.
asians have a lot of self discipline. they are not satisfied with just leeching off the public treasure.
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