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Don't they still have the ability to create campus organizations where they can meet and do this?
If they did and there were protections against raids of such meetings in the name of free speech by elements of hate and abuse, these would be safe-spaces. Free speech. like all others, is not an unfettered right. It does not for instance imply some blanket freedom to deliberately communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages that target persons based upon their membership in marginalized and disadvantaged groups.
People need to grow more in terms of learning to behave properly.
If they did and there were protections against raids of such meetings in the name of free speech by elements of hate and abuse, these would be safe-spaces. Free speech. like all others, is not an unfettered right. It does not for instance imply some blanket freedom to deliberately communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages that target persons based upon their membership in marginalized and disadvantaged groups.
People need to grow more in terms of learning to behave properly.
I'm not sure I understood your point. Can they not still have such organizations on campus?
Uninviting controversial speakers has been a campus tradition for years.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali was uninvited from speaking at Brandeis; a black Somali woman raised in a Muslim village, she escaped her culture and became an internationally known speaker, writer, and critic of Islam. A petition of professors, students, and outsiders organized by the Muslim advocacy group CAIR persuaded the university to silence her voice.
Barbara Bush spoke at Wellesley commencement, despite protests by about 150 students who felt she was not representative of a modern "career woman". Her advice to them was thoughtful and timeless; one hopes that at least a few of them heard her.
In 2014, the International Monetary Fund director Christine Lagarde withdrew from speaking at Smith College after protests. She is the first woman to head the IMF, but apparently the students didn't like that she was white and part of the "banking establishment".
This kind of disgraceful behavior has become the norm, not the exception, among America's elite universities that purport to train the top leadership of our country.
Safe zones are the dumbest, most ridiculous things ever invented.
Who is going to coddle Special Snowflake when their career isn't going the way they like? When the news is too difficult to handle? When they can't pay their bills?
Who is going to hold Junior's hand when the real world shows up?
Is anyone shocked that we are the laughingstock of the world?
Exactly.
We have 22 year olds that are bursting into tears at the sight of "Women" vs "Men" public restrooms.
Meanwhile; we are in the crosshairs of ISIS ... who is arming 12 year olds with AK's.
Uninviting controversial speakers has been a campus tradition for years. Ayaan Hirsi Ali was uninvited from speaking at Brandeis; a black Somali woman raised in a Muslim village, she escaped her culture and became an internationally known speaker, writer, and critic of Islam. A petition of professors, students, and outsiders organized by the Muslim advocacy group CAIR persuaded the university to silence her voice.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an atheist, feminist, and former center-left Dutch politician. She was born in Mogadishu (hardly a "Muslim village"), a city that she and her family fled when she was 8 years old. She is a noted campaigner against genital mutilation in Africa. She originally supported the fatwa against Salmon Rushdie, but became a staunch critic of Islam after 9/11 and collaborated with Theo Van Gogh.
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Barbara Bush spoke at Wellesley commencement, despite protests by about 150 students who felt she was not representative of a modern "career woman". Her advice to them was thoughtful and timeless; one hopes that at least a few of them heard her.
Barbara Bush's speech at Wellesley was delivered in 1990. Some 150 students had signed the following protest statement: "Wellesley teaches that we will be rewarded on the basis of our own merit, not on that of a spouse. To honor Barbara Bush as a commencement speaker is to honor a woman who has gained recognition through the achievements of her husband, which contravenes what we have been taught over the last four years at Wellesley."
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In 2014, the International Monetary Fund director Christine Lagarde withdrew from speaking at Smith College after protests. She is the first woman to head the IMF, but apparently the students didn't like that she was white and part of the "banking establishment".
Certainly there are those who will wish to protest anyone with a connection to the WTO, IMF, or any other agency of what they see as a brutal international financial cartel. Lagarde herself has a background in labor law and energetic antitrust activity.
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This kind of disgraceful behavior has become the norm, not the exception, among America's elite universities that purport to train the top leadership of our country.
Efforts at gilding the lily are not serving your cause well.
A safe zone/space is by default censorship. It's an area where only one opinion may be voiced. THAT is censorship. It is banning opinions and voices.
If you want to attend a class/speech, then go. If you don't, then don't go. If you want to protest it, then protest. If you want to hear someone else, then arrange it.
Iv'e seen/heard Ben Shapiro. There schools have not a chance beating him in a debate. He always refutes the BS/doubletalk and makes his detractors look like blue-ribbon chumps. So they cower away and hide.........
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