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Trump was a gamble but Hillary was a sure thing of scandals, deceit and back door politics with the media downplaying all of it while telling us how great everything is.
Right. Because there have been no scandals, deceit, or back door politics with trump.
On the OP's question: yes, I have no doubt we will have a president in the future who will win in a landslide and command very high approval ratings. Here's an example:
In 1928, Hoover won with 444 electoral votes and carried 40 states. The economy was booming and everybody bought into the idea that Big Business should be unshackled and that government should get out of the way. Everybody was a Republican. The only states who voted Democrat were the deep South, who still had a grudge with the party of Lincoln.
1932 -- just four years later -- FDR won 472 electoral votes and carried 42 states. Huge numbers of voters dumped the Repubs and switched to the Dems. FDR and the New Deal were very popular, with people looking to FDR for "relief, recovery and reform" to help guide the nation out of the Depression.
People today assume the partisan divide will last forever. It won't. Eventually an event or events will occur that will cause a seismic shift in political attitudes either right or left, and a charismatic leader will emerge to lead them.
I think the OP is over-estimating how many truly popular presidents were elected in the past. Pretty much every President since George Washington has had a reasonably large and vocal opposition. (Certainly ol' Ronnie Raygun wasn't universally beloved. Neither was FDR.)
But I think our media is also a problem, and not merely because of its emphasis on conflict and drama. I think its emphasis on looks (as opposed to substance) is also a huge issue today. Looking good and sounding good on TV has become a primary requirement of the job. People like FDR or William Howard Taft would be unelectable today, and not because of their policies, but because of their physical issues. God forbid we have a cripple or a fatty in the Oval Office! Let's not even think about a stutterer...
"Must have movie-star looks" narrows an already over-narrow field of candidates. I wish there was a way we could roll that requirement back, so the voters would be forced to pay more attention to the various candidates' actual platforms.
Folks, it's been a year and a half since the 2016 election.
It appears the butt-hurt snowflakes still cannot accept the duly-elected president, despite the fact that the rest of us silently put up with his predecessor for 8 years.
Folks, it's been a year and a half since the 2016 election.
It appears the butt-hurt snowflakes still cannot accept the duly-elected president, despite the fact that the rest of us silently put up with his predecessor for 8 years.
Sarcasm?
Back to the OP.
I think most intelligent, moderate (which I think a majority of citizens claim ti be) people on either side of the aisle would be happy to support a moderate president, with a good mix in the House and Senate. I think we have underestimated the importance of Statesmanship over attention grabbing antics and pandering to extremists. All at a cost to how seriously we are taken as a country. Hopefully we can right the ship before we sink further into becoming the United States of Kardashian.
I think many moderates, or even lefties, could have better tolerated a president who's policies they disagreed with, if he or she wasn't actively, knowingly and continuously making a mockery of the office and the country.
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5) The internet. It is more difficult to have secrets now. I wonder if the highly promiscuous Clinton could have survived the age of the internet. Trump may also feel the wrath in the future. The odds of that are good.
Clinton's multiple affairs were no secret and were widely discussed during the 1992 campaign and he was still elected. They were then discussed at length over the next 8 years..and then there was that impeachment thing. He still survived it.
i really dont think we could have a popular presdient. it just not possible. no matter who elected, could be god himself, the other side will start impeachment procedures even before they take office. It is really an all or nothing. the nly way to have a popular president would be if everybody change to the same side. all become democratics or republician. even thought both parties are the same once they hit congress, it will always be a war between them.
i really dont think we could have a popular presdient. it just not possible. no matter who elected, could be god himself, the other side will start impeachment procedures even before they take office. It is really an all or nothing. the nly way to have a popular president would be if everybody change to the same side. all become democratics or republician. even thought both parties are the same once they hit congress, it will always be a war between them.
I think we can - and should - be debating differences of opinion. Those differences are part of what can make the country great. The difference lately is the "all or nothing" attitude from the extremists and the pandering to those extremes (to make headlines) that both parties have been sinking into lately. That is not how it is supposed to work. I expect political battles. We've moved to political nuclear war. It's not good for anyone, no matter how much anyone believes they are "winning". Truth is we are all losing.
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