Why Do People View Porn Stars/Strippers Negatively? (state, claim, Las Vegas)
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I answered the question posed. No one made inquiry as to the opinion of lawyers, doctors, or scientists.
If the reason why people look down on strippers and pornstars is due to their poor life choices, then why don't people look down on lawyers and doctors for their poor life choices. Your argument makes no sense. There are lots of people in finance who have coke habits. Why isn't being a banker a profession to look down upon?
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Originally Posted by KenFresno
If the reason why people look down on strippers and pornstars is due to their poor life choices, then why don't people look down on lawyers and doctors for their poor life choices. Your argument makes no sense. There are lots of people in finance who have coke habits. Why isn't being a banker a profession to look down upon?
I guess because they didn't become bankers and lawyers as a result a combination of poor life choices and bad luck?
So you can say wow, that lawyer has a bad coke habit. But you wouldn't say wow, that coke habit contributed to that guy ending up being a lawyer.
The human body is the ONLY thing that is yours ONLY, to do with as you please.
Strip it naked and flaunt it in front of an audience, or give it away to a john, it isn't yours any more. It's that simple.
The negative aspect of it, is that once you've shared it with people, either physically or visually, especially those who don't respect it, it is now theirs too.
A laborer selling his or her body and sweat to an employer = not a problem
A soldier selling his or her body and blood to the government = act of nobility
An Athlete selling his or her body and sweat to a team owner = rich, famous and admired
A sex worker selling his or her body and sex for money = immortal and disgusting.
I guess because they didn't become bankers and lawyers as a result a combination of poor life choices and bad luck?
So you can say wow, that lawyer has a bad coke habit. But you wouldn't say wow, that coke habit contributed to that guy ending up being a lawyer.
Lots of famous boxers and fighters got into the sport because they made bad life decisions, went to jail, broken homes, etc. Except not only are they culturally accepted but often admired.
Lots of soldiers end up in the military due to poor life choices. Yet they are considered heroes by our society.
Again, the inconsistency concerning this issue is absolutely baffling.
The human body is the ONLY thing that is yours ONLY, to do with as you please.
Strip it naked and flaunt it in front of an audience, or give it away to a john, it isn't yours any more. It's that simple.
The negative aspect of it, is that once you've shared it with people, either physically or visually, especially those who don't respect it, it is now theirs too.
Sure it is. Your body is always yours to do with as you wish, no matter who sees it. Prostitutes have choices. They can choose to have sex with the customer for $X or $X + $Y. They can choose to refuse sex with the john at all. They can leave the profession. And strippers and porn stars have the same choices.
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Lots of famous boxers and fighters got into the sport because they made bad life decisions, went to jail, broken homes, etc. Except not only are they culturally accepted but often admired.
Lots of soldiers end up in the military due to poor life choices. Yet they are considered heroes by our society.
Again, the inconsistency concerning this issue is absolutely baffling.
Boxers and fighters aren't my heroes, exactly the opposite, but ok.
Soldiers who end up in the military aren't praised for their poor choices, but rather, the service that they give for the rest of us. Going over there so my sons won't have to go? Yeah, that guy is a hero.
It ads to their story if they were troubled before becoming a "hero", though, but that's different from ending up there DUE TO a bunch of bad decisions.
Those occupations are seen as heroic accomplishments, regardless of whether they arrived there with a stellar reputation prior to being a boxer or soldier. It's what they did afterward that lifted them up.
Not so porn stars and prostitutes and strippers. They're still down in the muck.
A laborer selling his or her body and sweat to an employer = not a problem
A soldier selling his or her body and blood to the government = act of nobility
An Athlete selling his or her body and sweat to a team owner = rich, famous and admired
A sex worker selling his or her body and sex for money = immortal and disgusting.
The inconsistency here is baffling.
These are an awful lot of assumptions as to the way people think and the perceptions that they have. There is no way to predict that everyone thinks like that. I would guess that most people would not agree with every statement above, so there really isn't any inconsistency.
Lots of famous boxers and fighters got into the sport because they made bad life decisions, went to jail, broken homes, etc. Except not only are they culturally accepted but often admired.
Lots of soldiers end up in the military due to poor life choices. Yet they are considered heroes by our society.
Again, the inconsistency concerning this issue is absolutely baffling.
Again, you are assuming everyone thinks exactly like you have presented.
They don't. Stop trying to stereotype everyone and listen instead to what people are saying about this very specific topic.
Quite frankly, if you want to sell your body, go for it. Just don't look for my approval -- which is the main point of the thread -- and then tell me there is something wrong with ME when I don't give it.
Boxers and fighters aren't my heroes, exactly the opposite, but ok.
You wouldn't protest if a former boxer went to the local high school and gave a speech. You probably wouldn't approve of a former porn star doing the same. They may not be heroes to you but you find the profession socially acceptable.
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Soldiers who end up in the military aren't praised for their poor choices, but rather, the service that they give for the rest of us. Going over there so my sons won't have to go? Yeah, that guy is a hero.
How do they serve the rest of us? The soldiers serve the establishment, not you and I.
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Those occupations are seen as heroic accomplishments, regardless of whether they arrived there with a stellar reputation prior to being a boxer or soldier. It's what they did afterward that lifted them up.
By this account a porn star who uses her money to better her community and to help others should thus be considered in the same regard?
Yet when people in porn try and raise money for charity they are treated like a pariah. Again our cultures double standards are baffling and inconsistent.
You understand the survey questioned viewing habits, now I don't know about you, but I read books, viewing them is boring, they just sit there, and I have to wait until events conspire to flip it open to a printed page I can read, and that kind of messes with the continuity.
so: if I'm understanding this right your stating that there's a difference between opening a book to view it with your eyes, and turning on a TV or computer to View it with your eyes.
Does that include when you use a computer to View a kindle app?
Men and women are 'inspired' by different things, it's traditional to be more critical of the men's, but as you said below....
Further most frequently people presume pornography refers to imagery that explicitly shows unsimulated sex, this excludes 50 Shades.
I will point out that women's written erotica has a similar goal as pornography, but its format makes it more socially acceptable, thus permitting denial such that someone reading that material could avoid self identifying as a pornography consumer. My Grandmother used to read Regency Romance novels that were pretty up there on the Scoviille scale (incest, rape, BDSM, group sex, etc. with a soft filter for erotic effect), hell I first learned about Anaïs Nin because she (my Gran) was reading it, I'll bet she'd be horrified to consider it porn. She certainly wouldn't self identify as using pornography.
...whether the woman is in denial or not..... Their 'porn' is frequently WORSE!
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