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Old 01-19-2020, 09:20 PM
 
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I hate tweakers skulking about looking for things to steal. We have too many where I live, always breaking into cars and sometimes houses. So you want to enable more of them by making it legal to smoke meth? I think you should pay for the damage they do in that case.
No, I think you misunderstand...if you remove the drug laws, the crime will go with it...look at when alcohol prohibition ended...the criminal alcohol market dissolved after alcohol became legal again...look around today, how much alcohol related crime do you hear about? How about black market alcohol?


Once it was legal and legitimate companies started supplying it, there was no place for the criminals anymore.



Keeping the drug laws in place will ensure drug related crimes, like theft and robbery continue.

 
Old 01-19-2020, 09:26 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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If the US legalized all drugs, 10% of the population would be addicts and a million people a year would die from use. Drugs are poison.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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If the US legalized all drugs, 10% of the population would be addicts and a million people a year would die from use. Drugs are poison.
People thought the same thing when alcohol prohibition was in effect, turns out, that didnt even come close to happening.


Its better for drugs like this to be legalized that way, they can be regulated, and quality control can be implemented, the way it is now, its totally unregulated, street dealers could add battery acid to dope if they wanted to!


Its actually kind of curious, the fact that its all unregulated and not taxed either (thats a big one)!
 
Old 01-20-2020, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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I think Portugal legalized almost all narcotics, but the rest of Europe has yet to follow suit. Probably a bunch of reasons the idea didn't spread, many of which are in this thread.
 
Old 01-22-2020, 12:59 AM
 
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I think Portugal legalized almost all narcotics, but the rest of Europe has yet to follow suit. Probably a bunch of reasons the idea didn't spread, many of which are in this thread.
Of course...large cities with large police forces, rely on a certain percentage of crime, what would the US do if they all the sudden didnt have many criminals anymore? 80% of the prison cells would be empty, police depts would have their budgets slashed, staffing would be cut way down, etc etc.


As Ive said before, without drug laws, law enforcement in the US would become largely irrelevant and fall into obscurity, they really need drug laws or something like it, that guarantees, a large number of people are going to break these laws over and over again, drug laws are PERFECT for that!


I dont know about anyone else on here, but it personally disgusts me, that my govt is colluding with foreign drug cartels and creating laws that benefit them and help grow their profits!
 
Old 01-22-2020, 01:05 AM
 
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No, I think you misunderstand...if you remove the drug laws, the crime will go with it...look at when alcohol prohibition ended...the criminal alcohol market dissolved after alcohol became legal again...look around today, how much alcohol related crime do you hear about? How about black market alcohol?


Once it was legal and legitimate companies started supplying it, there was no place for the criminals anymore.



Keeping the drug laws in place will ensure drug related crimes, like theft and robbery continue.
Legal or not if someone can't work they steal to buy drugs.
 
Old 01-22-2020, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You might change your mind after a stoner runs your butt over on the street. If you don't, you are a slow learner.
 
Old 01-22-2020, 09:23 PM
 
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Legal or not if someone can't work they steal to buy drugs.
Plenty of people that cannot work drink alcohol...Do we see a huge problem with alcohol related crime? Ive never ever heard of any.
 
Old 01-22-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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You might change your mind after a stoner runs your butt over on the street. If you don't, you are a slow learner.
Why would that make a difference, plenty of drunks run people over in their cars (or run into other cars while drunk), and yet alcohol remains easily accessible to anyone 21 and over...NO ONE even suggests tougher laws or restrictions!


There is definitely a double standard when it comes alcohol and drugs, when drugs are involved in a crime or accident, it seems like the law wants to punish the drug industry, doctor, manufacturer, etc, but when its alcohol, no one even talks about trying different things...its very strange
 
Old 01-22-2020, 10:08 PM
 
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Plenty of people that cannot work drink alcohol...Do we see a huge problem with alcohol related crime? Ive never ever heard of any.
Their habit isn't $300/day.
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