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Old 03-29-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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Its almost like we did not originate here.

We didn't. Our ancestors came on the Galactica.
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Old 04-01-2020, 02:14 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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We didn't. Our ancestors came on the Galactica.
Is that a starship?
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:56 AM
 
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Is that a starship?

Yeah. It's from Battlestar Galactica.


I take it you've never seen that show?
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Old 04-03-2020, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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I once had a teacher explain. That while animals exhibit a lesser sense of self awareness then humans, they still react in a selfish way to the environment around them. Every species has a built in desire to protect itself from pain of death. While the antelope may not be pondering its agonizing death at the hands of predators in the strictly philosophic or religious way that a human being might, they still are reacting in fear.

Having said that. This teacher stated that herbivores are larger, stronger, and healthier than they ever have been due to the presence of humans. While the lack of humans might create a uniform biosphere (climate and elevation notwithstanding) that biosphere favors the vicious. A human created ecosystem favors the weak.

Deer enjoy strolling through flat manicured grass while picking fruits from evenly spaced trees, whilst having the ability to watch for predators across a cleared out space devoid of thick shrubbery. As such, they have comfort, food, and safety.

Many small animals feel the same way. They associate humans with food. That's why many animals will approach us looking for lunch.

This my friends across city-data, is one net benefit of the existence of humans. I like several others on this board am an atheist. but I am not negative about our existence. Another poster had stated this coronavirus is here to teach us how easily the planet can kill us. first of all, a flu bug with a 97% survivability rate is our lesson? If that's the best that God and/or Mother Earth can throw at us, than they are not very good at being scary.

Jokes aside, like others have said, evolution doesn't make mistakes. It is a biological battle to the top of the survival chain. The smartest and the strongest survive. For every bad that someone whines about, there is a good. For everything we've destroyed, we have replaced or allowed to be replaced something stronger.

I drove by am old logging site the other day and saw a sign explaining the company planted thousands of trees to replace those cut down. the sign was worn and aged, likely years old. But the trees were growing, covering the clean stumps that stood amidst them. Something we did. Find the good. We are not a mistake. Be it God or be it evolution. Choose your beauty.
People who have a worldview like the OP often 1. Have not actually spent a lot of time outside to see what's actually going on in nature and 2. Haven't Google Earthed much to know what the planet actually looks like.

Environmental articles point to problems in order to drive action. People who only read articles without getting first hand observations end up developing this fiction in their head that prior to humanities expansion, the world was some sort of utopian paradise and that industrialization has essentially turned the earth into a big version of the detention pond behind the AutoZone. After observing more, one realizes 1. There is a whole lot of earths surface that is still essentially wilderness 2. Humans are making good progress on fixing their environmental toll 3. There's a lot of positive byproducts of human intervention, for instance people chainsawing forests clean instead of waiting for fires to come through and scorch them, performing a giant reset button back to gravel on hundreds of square miles of a once thriving ecosystem.
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