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Old 04-27-2020, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Sunshine state
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Great post, Mircea. This is why I think governments should have a plan that doesn't rely heavily on having a vaccine, because it may never be found in our lifetime - if ever. There should be a plan for a new normal with the assumption that Covid19 is here to stay but where we can still function somewhat normally as a society (go to work, visit family, etc), but with adjustments.
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Old 04-27-2020, 11:49 AM
 
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I really don't know how more homeless aren't dead from this. Did all countries shelter them? The number should be in the millions or tens of millions with all the poverty around the world.
Actually they probably are one of the safest in population, not due to health or income level but due to lack of being around people and being outdoors. They have already been distancing. The only thing poverty has on this virus is that those in poverty tend to be those in poor health as well. Poor health seems to be the greatest risk even though it seemingly has stricken some who appeared to have no health risks, the majority did have health issues.
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Old 04-27-2020, 03:50 PM
 
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If nobody saw anyone, the virus wouldn’t spread. Yet we have states ready to open. That undoes all the social distancing we have been doing.

Let’s say the world followed the strictest guidelines. No grocery shopping. You have to have groceries delivered. Or stock up for a month.

If we all did what we were supposed to do, then would the virus still be here?

I even think that people going to beaches and breaking rules should suffer the most dire consequences.
You'll have to define "everyone". Are you including Police, Fire, Ambulance, Medical, Infrastructure (those who keep electricity flowing, clean water pressure in your pipes, gas or oil to your furnace, sewer treatment, waste disposal, etc.), Military, Energy, Food and Pharmaceutical (including production, processing, packaging and disbursement), Government, Telecommunications, and the folks necessary for the repair of all of the equipment used by the above?

Because if you are, in about a months' time, you'd have more deaths than have been thus far caused by Covid-19, and that would just be the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Thing is, where did virus actually come from. WHO says - bats. Will bats be gone? Or, whatever else source for it?
You know, there are pretty solid pointers that it appeared in several places across the world simultaneously. What will prevent same from happening again?
The only way is to let it weather out naturally, by developing natural immunity to it. Any infection specialist will tell you that, when virus enters healthy strong body, it's virulence is reduced and when it goes out, it's much weaker.

Look at Sweden. Or, Belarus. They do fine.
As a whole, maybe they are doing fine, but any person who has lost loved ones in any of those countries, I don't think they would agree.
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