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Relax.....sea levels go up, and they go down. Warming periods come and go, as do ice ages......
Science can be manipulated to scare the population.....
I am about 35 miles inland and about 1400 feet elevation on the coast of California.
Someone mentioned to day that it was 80 degrees in the arctic. I assume there will be a surge globally.
We know that the oceans are rising around the world, cities built on the water are being devastated, uninhabitable.
Shipping is going to be disrupted as well.
Is any one taking action or are we all waiting for the last minute?
People will be forced to move, property values inland are likely to inflate.
Any one else thought about this?
Arctic ice melt has nothing to do with sea level rise. It's floating, so if it all melts it would have no effect. Greenland and Antarctica have large masses of land based ice, which will take a long time to melt. Warming water also expands, which will contribute to sea level rise, but we're looking at a century before rising sea levels have a great impact. Even half submerged cities like Venice are threatened as much by land subsidence as by rising water.
Much of the recent flooding has been due to warming surface waters and more energy in the air, leading to more frequent storms and heavy rains. Wind patterns have shifted, leading to droughts in western North America and flooding in east of the Mississippi. Time will tell if that is a temporary condition or a shift in climate. We won't know for decades. It's more relevant that most low lying areas were developed before land use planning. Whole housing developments were constructed in flood plains with inadequate drainage.
The astronomers have headline news about the issue. The sun has entered an extreme quiescent phase. In the past, that has caused serious cooling in the Northern Hemisphere, most recently a little less than 200 years ago. Part of the cooling may have been due to volcanic eruptions. We didn't have any NOAA satellites back then, so all we can do is guess what was going on in the atmosphere. Still, we may get a few decades of respite from global warming before it returns with a vengeance.
I am about 35 miles inland and about 1400 feet elevation on the coast of California.
Someone mentioned to day that it was 80 degrees in the arctic. I assume there will be a surge globally.
We know that the oceans are rising around the world, cities built on the water are being devastated, uninhabitable.
Shipping is going to be disrupted as well.
Is any one taking action or are we all waiting for the last minute?
People will be forced to move, property values inland are likely to inflate.
Any one else thought about this?
Like a frog in heating water over a fire....it still seems very far away - you hardly even notice and that's even if you accept something is happening. Anyway, once you've invested in property it's hard to give up.
I am about 35 miles inland and about 1400 feet elevation on the coast of California.
Someone mentioned to day that it was 80 degrees in the arctic. I assume there will be a surge globally.
We know that the oceans are rising around the world, cities built on the water are being devastated, uninhabitable.
Shipping is going to be disrupted as well.
Is any one taking action or are we all waiting for the last minute?
People will be forced to move, property values inland are likely to inflate.
Any one else thought about this?
No, you are the only person around who is so far-seeing. Congratulations!
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Originally Posted by Shakeesha
No one is taking action because they don't care.
I don't care because I don't believe in algore mythology. However, his make-believe world has made him about $100 million since he left DC in 2001.
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Originally Posted by NorthAtlanta
Unless people take action asap which I think will not happen, the coastal cities are doomed. Before my time is over, I am planning on disposing my real estate close to the coasts and buying something inland to leave for my kid. I am betting on Atlanta for the time being.
Everyone should move to the mountains. ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Mongobongo
A couple of questions. Where I used to dock my boat at the New Jersey shore, the water level hasn't changed in 60 years. Have you informed Al Gore of your findings? He seems to have purchased an oceanfront mansion in California. Perhaps he should have consulted you first.
And through it all, not one bit of proof offered, or even evidence.
Nothing but "Everybody knows that...." and "Someone mentioned" and "I assume". As usual.
This isn't a debate thread, much less a "Great Debate". It's a mutual admiration and handwringing society.
You all want to fool yourselves, and solemnly agree with each other that this fantasy or that one is somehow a done deal, no problem. Talk never hurt anything. Well, almost never. And if it makes you feel better, that's OK.
But if you want to pretend it's a "debate", keep in mind that you might occasionally get some.
A huge chunk of southern Louisiana will be eroded in a few decades.
For the first time ever in history, cruise ships can sail through the "northwest passage" from Arctic Canada to Alaska or Siberia.
Just announced this week: Antarctica's snow cap is turning all green, from toxic algae. It can be seen from outer space. The same thing with the Himalayan snow cap in Asia.
People are growing vegetables in arctic Greenland for the first time.
In a couple of decades, parts of the worlds largest Navy Base in Norfolk VA, will be impassible during high-tides.
I am about 35 miles inland and about 1400 feet elevation on the coast of California. Someone mentioned to day that it was 80 degrees in the arctic. I assume there will be a surge globally.
We know that the oceans are rising around the world, cities built on the water are being devastated, uninhabitable.
Shipping is going to be disrupted as well.
Is any one taking action or are we all waiting for the last minute?
People will be forced to move, property values inland are likely to inflate.
Any one else thought about this?
So much rhetoric.
So many predictions of disaster.
And through it all, not one bit of proof offered, or even evidence.
Nothing but "Everybody knows that...." and "Someone mentioned" and "I assume". As usual.
This isn't a debate thread, much less a "Great Debate". It's a mutual admiration and handwringing society.
You all want to fool yourselves, and solemnly agree with each other that this fantasy or that one is somehow a done deal, no problem. Talk never hurt anything. Well, almost never. And if it makes you feel better, that's OK.
But if you want to pretend it's a "debate", keep in mind that you might occasionally get some.
Here is one article and a Siberia heatwave google. All you need is a free account to read the article below.
Siberia is in the throes of a heat wave that would be considered warm even by the standards of those living outside the Arctic Circle.
In Washington, for example, the temperature has been stuck in the 60s all week, reaching a maximum of 73 degrees Thursday. Yet several stations in North Central Siberia, including areas near or above the Arctic Circle, are seeing temperatures climb well into the 80s.
On Friday, the town of Khatanga, Siberia, located well north of the Arctic Circle, recorded a temperature of 78 degrees, some 46 degrees above normal. The typical maximum temperature for the day at that location is 32 degrees. The town obliterated its previous record high for the date of 54 by some 24 degrees and its monthly record of 68 by about 10 degrees.
Relax.....sea levels go up, and they go down. Warming periods come and go, as do ice ages......
Science can be manipulated to scare the population.....
Tell that to communities that already have had to relocate completely, due to becoming inundated by sea level rise. Not only Pacific island nations, but here at home, in the US: You are being redirected...
It’s stuff like this that gives me false hope. American cities succumbing to ocean level rise has been in the news as long as I can remember, over 30 years. I’m sure it’s been in the news longer than that. I’ve been waiting for Miami and Los Angeles to disappear under the ocean for a long time now and yet they’re still here. Is there a way to speed up this process?
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