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It is rather odd that the poster in question, along with quite a few others, are freaking out over a relatively few protesters, but admire the 750,000 - 1,000,000 confederate soldiers who were responsible for the deaths of perhaps 750,000 people and the massive destruction of property. Hundreds of protesters = evil. A million soldiers killing and destroying property = good and deserving of worship with statues...not to mention being traitors. And let's see, is there a particular political party that seems to admire the traitors most?
Except what they did was technically legal at the time. They separated from the country and officially formed their own nation with a government and military. Not the same thing as what’s going on today. These were the actions of elected politicians to form a new nation and government. The war started after the attack on the fort to remove union troops from what was perceived to be within Confederate territory. It was then that the north gathered the troops and invaded the Confederate States. Hindsight shows that the entire war could have been prevented at many points by cooler heads on both sides but that was a different era and a different mindset than today. By your logic you could say the same about the Union troops who also killed hundreds of thousands of people, destroyed private property, and were just as racist as those in the Confederacy.
Except what they did was technically legal at the time. They separated from the country and officially formed their own nation with a government and military. Not the same thing as what’s going on today. These were the actions of elected politicians to form a new nation and government. The war started after the attack on the fort to remove union troops from what was perceived to be within Confederate territory. It was then that the north gathered the troops and invaded the Confederate States. Hindsight shows that the entire war could have been prevented at many points by cooler heads on both sides but that was a different era and a different mindset than today. By your logic you could say the same about the Union troops who also killed hundreds of thousands of people, destroyed private property, and were just as racist as those in the Confederacy.
Why do we even have statues of Columbus in America? He didn't even discover America, he discovered the Carribean... And FYI, Vikings and the Chinese found parts of the Americas before Columbus did.
Attempts to erase all traces of previous leaders by tearing down statues happens periodically in 3rd world countries.
Which makes no more sense than:
1. leaving up statues that have no relevance to today's world
2. who most people don't know what the statues are
3. most people don't know why they were erected
4. most people don't know what the subject of the statue did.
I have no real feelings about Christopher Columbus. I associate him more with Spanish colonial rule than the United States. But I'm not in favor of letting a 100 knuckleheads on the street and their pseudo-intellectual halfwit enablers on social media decide how our cities look.
Why do we even have statues of Columbus in America? He didn't even discover America, he discovered the Carribean... And FYI, Vikings and the Chinese found parts of the Americas before Columbus did.
11 Italians were lynched causing national and international problems.
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The incident strained relations between the U.S. and Italy. The Italian consul Pasquale Corte left New Orleans in late May 1891 and the New York Times published his statement accusing the city politicians of responsibility for the lynchings.[5] The Italian government demanded that the lynch mob be brought to justice and that reparations be paid to the dead men's families. When the U.S. declined to prosecute the mob leaders, Italy recalled its ambassador from Washington in protest.[77] The U.S. followed suit, recalling its legation from Rome. Diplomatic relations remained at an impasse for over a year, and there were rumors of a declaration of war on America as a result of the murders. As part of a wider effort to ease tensions with Italy and placate Italian Americans, president Benjamin Harrison declared the first nationwide celebration of Columbus Day in 1892, commemorating the 400th anniversary of the Italian explorer's landing in the New World.[78]
Basically, we put it up and celebrate it for the same reasons people today want to tear it down and cancel him. To appease people.
Keep them. Columbus was blemished, but highly important. And part of history.
So by that standard, you would also support statues of Hitler and Pol Pot.
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