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Old 06-28-2009, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Before I answer, I need someone to interpret the question, which could mean either of the following:

1. Is there anybody here who has ever changed his mind?

2. Has your mind ever been changed by anybody?
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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In all the debates you've engaged in throughout your life....has anybody ever profoundly changed your mind on a subject?

Common debates are: Abortion, Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Religion, Politics, War, Animal Rights, Death Penalty, etc. As a result of a debate, was your view/perspective/stance significantly altered in any of these areas?

I have to honestly say, no. Nobody has ever really been able to change my mind as a result of a debate. So this leads me to wonder if debate actually accomplishes anything other than giving us an arena to express our opinions?

What say you?
Yes. God changed my mind and heart from wanting to play the charade game of being 'an atheist' for 10 years....to one of following and living for Him . No one will ever be sorry they did that.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I have had my mind changed by the presentation of additional facts in a comprehensible manner.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yes. I had an epiphany during a debate about, of all things, a TV show, when I realized through discussion that the character's motivation wasn't as altruistic as it seemed on the surface. I realized that if, in real life, I applied "follow the money" to most political news stories that everything made more sense if I dug deeper and looked at what politicians and business people had to gain (money/power) by their actions/positions on issues. I realized the media rarely connected those dots for me when I was younger and now, I don't trust them, either.

Example: Why is the Catholic Church pro-illegal immigration? They'd have you believe it's a humanitarian thing but if most illegal Mexican immigrants were not Catholic, would they be as steadfast in their position? I don't think so. I don't think they were harboring Jews during WWII in large numbers when it was a matter of life and death and not just deportation. I see the Catholic powers that be salivating over the illegal immigration population to fill up US Catholic Churches again and maybe providing a bigger population of potential priests/nuns.

Example: Why do Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson perpetuate the black man as a victim? Why no public talk from them of successful black business people? Answer: It's not good for business to talk up success stories. Their business and power is derived from people needing them. Telling people they're victims creates a need for Sharpton and Jackson to exist, make money and have power. If people thought they could rise up on their own, they wouldn't need the victimologymeisters.

Example: Is Al Gore a global warming believer or a man who found his post political niche scoring big, financially, on the business (and it's a big business) of climate change? He's made a bundle off it already. Gore's net worth in 2000 was about $2 million. It's now $100 million.

Example: Why do the Republican solutions to illegal immigration sound so much like the Democrat solutions? Answer: The Democrats are looking to score Hispanic votes. The Republicans are looking to appease big business with cheap labor. Their motivations may be different but they're looking for the same end result so they can benefit.

Example: If women are a majority numbers-wise, why do they act like minority victims? Answer: Women's "rights" is big business. There's money and power in the victim's business.

I could go on but the point is debate is what made me look behind heroic/altruistic actions at the real bottom line: money and power.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:14 PM
 
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I could go on but the point is debate is what made me look behind heroic/altruistic actions at the real bottom line: money and power.
I wouldn't say my same understanding came as an epiphany but rather over a life time of just living. Human behavior is not rocket science. My beloved late father-in-law once told me people first seek wealth, then power, respectively. He was absolutely right. And in debates, I've also learned that the words "but" and "however" used in a sentence or a statement always separates a disarming left jab from the disabling right hook that follows.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:55 PM
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Yeah, all the time.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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I posted to this thread when it was newly-released. Since then, I still have to say that I haven't changed my mind on anything yet, although I pondered a few good points made. I guess I'm pretty hard to convince.

However, I don't linger in threads. I sometimes post a 2nd response, and possibly a 3rd (rare), and then I'm done and move on.
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