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Old 04-09-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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I hate to tell you this, Sunshine, but you can still qualify for public assistance in either Death Valley or Alaska.

I'm sure you can but I think you get my point.

Drop em all off on a deserted isle and let them fend for themselves.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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I've reported welfare fraud on numerous ocassions, on the phone and by email and nothing has been done.
Thats the problem. The State does little to prevent or prosecute fraud. I worked in gov. hand out programs before. As a project manager I tried to get the state to do something about applicatnts I KNEW were lying and defrauding the system. I was basically told to keep my mouth shut and give them assistance. That was years ago. Things may have changed. I never want to work in social services again.

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I also want welfare recipients drug tested.
I cant agree with that. I dont believe in government drug testing ( What is it they say about glass houses). Whats the difference in some of these people getting assistance and disability that are prescribed xanex, and hydrocodone and several other prescription drugs and someone that might hit a joint once in awhile.
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Old 04-09-2009, 10:38 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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Stop worrying about welfare and worry about other government/corporate waste instead.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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I agree.

"Welfare reform" is one of the many excuses used to distract people from what the government is really doing.


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Stop worrying about welfare and worry about other government/corporate waste instead.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: The Shires
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Thats the problem. The State does little to prevent or prosecute fraud. I worked in gov. hand out programs before. As a project manager I tried to get the state to do something about applicatnts I KNEW were lying and defrauding the system. I was basically told to keep my mouth shut and give them assistance. That was years ago. Things may have changed. I never want to work in social services again.



I cant agree with that. I dont believe in government drug testing ( What is it they say about glass houses). Whats the difference in some of these people getting assistance and disability that are prescribed xanex, and hydrocodone and several other prescription drugs and someone that might hit a joint once in awhile.
I don't agree with it either. Besides, drug testing potentially millions of people will cost the US taxpayer a fortune, just for the sake of weeding out a minority of people who may be abusing drugs/the system.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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I agree.

"Welfare reform" is one of the many excuses used to distract people from what the government is really doing.
It's because poor are an easy scapegoat to blame. People always need some sort of scapegoat and such scapegoats are usually the poor, or other ethnic groups.
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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It's because poor are an easy scapegoat to blame. People always need some sort of scapegoat and such scapegoats are usually the poor, or other ethnic groups.
it's all porkulous!!!! i want some meat.. soon we will be up to our arm pits with anchor babys give them all to the church.
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Just thought that I would add that The Good Samaritan Food Donation Act which was signed into law by Bill Clinton makes it easier for restaurants to donate left-over food to the needy. There are alredy Thousands of restaurants in the U.S. that participate.

I do think that there should be stricter laws against people who get disability and do not need it. For example my cousin, 3 kids 3 dads, has fake "fibromyalgia" so she can't work, and collects disability.(note i do believe that there are people who do have this condition,just not her). And has mooched off of family, including my mother for the last 20 years.

While my mother, who was hit by a drunk driver in a tractor-trailer, 20 years ago, and has already had 2 back surgeries and needs more, who is not supposed to be working by DR.s orders, has been working full time since she was 16, is holding off on taking disability. She can't even move some days, and is in constant pain.

As for removing all children from poor parents, it's not practical. There are not enough foster care homes. Not to mention foster care is more expensive thant if they would just teach these parents on how to parent, and provide cheap day-care. You have to remember a child in foster care is expensive. Removing a child should only happen when the child is either in a dangerous situation, or the parents refuse to get it together with some help.
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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I think women should be paid to raise babies and not necessarily live with the father. The man should pay for his kids but there are some men that should never be around women and children for any longer than the mating. Some are too darned dangerous physically and psychologically.
If there are some men who should not be kept around after mating, maybe no woman should mate with these kind of men in the first place. What a concept!!!
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:18 PM
 
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I think the base problem is too few of us own enough of the machinery that is doing the work so we do not get a portion of the wealth created by the machines. This concentrates the wealth created into the ownership class. This is exacerbated by the Ronnie Raygun upper bracket tax cuts. These things have created the real welfare class in our country.
I'm getting tired of Reagan and the Republicans being blamed for everything. How about the dramatic increase in out of wedlock births that has occurred since the 1960s????

Having unmarried parents can be devastating for children who start out with no cushion in life. In 1999 congressional testimony, Isabel Sawhill of the Brookings Institution said that the increase in single-parent families—mostly due to unwed motherhood in the past few decades—"can account for virtually all of the increase in child poverty since 1970." A recent study found that the stress of early childhood poverty can literally damage developing brains.


The liberal think-tank the Brookings Institution is finally admitting the obvious. When will the rest of us?

Here is the entire link for those who are interested:

Forget Juno. Out-of-wedlock births are a national catastrophe. - By Emily Yoffe - Slate Magazine
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