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My response was to people who believe that repulsive sick twisted creeps ought to be, I dunno, branded or something. How was I off topic? I agreed with you----severe punishment for repulsive sick twisted creeps. Web sites to name them. What's your problem, anyway?
Then maybe you should use those little 'smilies' to your right when posting. If you agree with a poster use . Just reading your posts I am not getting what you say you are sending. This thread is about if sex offenders should be branded you have:
~drug & lumped other criminals into it
~attacked other posters opinions as well as them personally
~gotten off topic several times
but we all have a problem?
OK here's your thread thanks for the grown up debate of an issue I'm done trying to be adult talking with you on this subject. Click.
You equate these people to rabid animals that shouldn't be released to society. God created all of us and he also creates rabid animals. We do not have the wisdom to understand why he does this, maybe he does this to test the limits of our compasion. Being a Christian takes real effort.
This is just an apology to not deal with reality; why do Christians always come with the excuse that we mere mortals cannot understand reality?
So what happens if people are threatened by a disease which easily can be prevented by the use of modern medicine? Do you refuse modern medicine because you believe that your God wants you to die, because if He didn't He would not have created the disease?
Let me tell you that it is much harder to be an autonomous human being or a minority than to be a Christian; especially when Christianity is the #1 religion of the world.
Originally Posted by effie briest
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and how on earth would you organize or institute that? your jurisdiction here is grandiose, Tricky.
Are you trying to tell me that sex offenders do not get a criminal record?
The death penalty should protect society from registered predators.
Originally Posted by jtur88
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But many child molesters want the child to love them in return, to become sexually fulfilled and want to have sex with them. to be their loving parther in an intimate and caring relationship. In many instances, the child actually does love the pedophile, which accounts for such a large number of them going unreported.
This is not to excuse the pedophile. It makes it no more right. But there is a difference in intent from the common criminal who operate with premeditated malice to harm their victim, or at least, not care if their victim is harmed.
The problem with child molesters is that they do not act in the best interest of the child, they only have eyes for their own sexual gratification, like rapists.
The evil of child molestation is not the sexual act but the betrayal of trust a child has in the adult.
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Yes, jaxson, many child molesters think they are not hurting the child. That is exactly what I think.
It seems you only have eyes for the perpetrator and not the victim?
What a child molester thinks is actually irrelevant, especially when it concerns rape (read: the abuse of trust children have in adults which is abused by tricking them into having sex when they aren't ready).
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Does it mean anything at all to you that in many, and possibly most, of these crimes, the perpetrator has absolutely no intent to harm the child, and believes the child enjoys it or will learn to enjoy it, the same as an adult would? They believe the relationship is a caring and loving one. They are the only criminals that do NOT want to harm their victims, and you want to come down the hardest on them.
The problem with paedophiles is that they treat children like adults, which they aren’t. Because of their sexual preference paedophiles are unable to act in the best interest of the child, especially when sexually aroused.
In short I’m not concerned about what child molesters think, only in what they have done.
The same way I’m not interested in what rapists think.
Jaxson, how can you say that ONLY sex offenders, among all offenders, deserve such harsh penalties, but then refuse to allow anyone to compare or contrast your sex offenders with other offenders?
You cannot make an argument saying a single group gets special treatment, and then shout down everyone who asks you why that single group merits special treatment, and accuse them of being off-topic. And saying that single group is "sick" over and over again as your only argument has left you with absolutely no credibility.
I'm supposed to use smilies to keep adults talking to me?
The thing with sex offenders, unless you go back and look at what specific crime they did, it's hard to know exactly what they did.
Some people are branded sex offenders because they were 18 and had sex with a 17 year old.
I can understand a guy who raped a VERY young child but for those petty little crimes where the two consenting teens were within a year or two of each other...eh...
I personally would like to see my rapist in prison for the rest of his life. Death would be an easy way out, IMO.
Yeah, and heard also that you can be branded one just for public urination.. is this really true? Cause that's just a big waste of time and money, and it really makes the whole system very useless.
It lists just about everything except their social security.
I found out that I have a few child sex offenders within 1-3 streets of me!
I was recently told that a neighbor spent time in prison for killing someone. Does anyone know of a watchdog website where that type of offense is listed ? This really bothers me.
Yeah, and heard also that you can be branded one just for public urination.. is this really true? .
It is theoretically true, but I would be surprised of someone could show that anyone who was convicted ONLY of public urination has ever been required to register as a sex offender.
Ordinarily, people are only arrested for public urination if they do it in view of a large crowd of strangers, to a conspicuous enough degree that it could constitute indecent exposure.
There are very sound constitutionals arguments against even our present system of "branding" felons in one narrow category, but not others. The laws that allow such branding are broad enough that they could be applied to a hunter who pees in the woods. Criminal laws that are overly broad is what allowed the Soviets, perfectly legally, to send millions to the gulags. Americans have a responsibility to be vigilant enough so as to not allow such broad laws to be applied. If the people don't stand up against legislative abuse, who will?
Then maybe you should use those little 'smilies' to your right when posting. If you agree with a poster use . Just reading your posts I am not getting what you say you are sending. This thread is about if sex offenders should be branded you have:
~drug & lumped other criminals into it
~attacked other posters opinions as well as them personally
~gotten off topic several times
but we all have a problem?
OK here's your thread thanks for the grown up debate of an issue I'm done trying to be adult talking with you on this subject. Click.
You made a very good point! He may be drinking caugh syrup before he post? He loves yo argue like a child..and pulls crap out off his ,ss!
Most states if not all just send a letter or you have to go online to see whats lerking around our kids! What would be the best thing to do to make it so he or she stands out? A licence plate on there car or a braclet they have to weare every place they go? I went online and found we have 5 within a 5 mile radius of our home! I was shocked because i know one of them and never knew he was a molester! Scarry i have three kids....what more can be done to let us know?
I don't have a problem "Branding" a sex offender for Life as one.
Their victim(s) is going to be carrying the crime against them inside their entire life, seems the least we can do for the victim and to the offender...
The best we can do it publicly flog the sex offender and then tattoo the crime on their forehead so that everyone will be aware of the crime and them.
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