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Old 06-26-2009, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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If they make robots capable of doing anything humans can do that are cheaper then labor our economy will be crushed.
I am assuming the first generation or so wont be that bright, but they might be able to do easy jobs.

like fast food, cashiers, etc...
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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I am assuming the first generation or so wont be that bright, but they might be able to do easy jobs.

like fast food, cashiers, etc...
" wont be that bright"

""like fast food, cashiers, etc...""

It's nice to know what you think of your fellow Humans...
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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We can't even make widescale electricity without burning something yet and we've only recently got robots to walk on 2 legs (but only just barely). We have a long way to go before we have 99% humanlike robots.

Honestly, we probably don't need human shaped robots anyway. A cashier robot can be a stationary box, a driving robot would be the CPU built inside of a car, A lifing robot that needs to get around would be more efficient with a multiple leg or wheeled platform, a babysitting robot would be more fun for the kids if it looked like a pony, ect, ect.

It would also be very hard for a stationary or wheeled robot to take over the world too.
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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What we really need to watch out for are super intelligent, fully autonomous robots that look like cute fluffy kittens.

That will be the end of mankind for sure.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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" wont be that bright"

""like fast food, cashiers, etc...""

It's nice to know what you think of your fellow Humans...
You have to admit that you don't need a PhD in astrophysics to do the job. I think a six year old could take orders and give change. Shoot, drink machines do it already.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Put aside your skepticism, and assume they are coming in the near future

and assume they look either 99% human or more.

I can see it now:

Robot Multiculturalism ("I think robots should be allowed to show their nuts in public as it is part of their robot culture," says liberal Britney Freshman)

Robot Tolerance ("You can't blame robots for creaking parts, you racist robotphobe!" - City Data Politics and Controversies Forum)

Robot hate speech ("Sir, you cannot call 75UX3, a piece of scrap! It's hurtful and it will not be tolerated on this campus! Go throw pies at some white guy guest speaker!")

Robot Rights (We're taking it to the Supreme Court -- "Robots should NOT have to power down just because their owner goes to sleep. We have the right to beep in public. The ACLU says it's covered by the first amendment.")

Robot Pride parades (clunk, clunk, clunk)

Congressmen cozying up to robots to get their vote

Robot Car Chases in Los Angeles ("I'm pursuing Unit PZ452 who just turned off the I-5. WHOA! He just missed one of those covered golf carts that GM is making now. Bob, this transformer model robbed an auto junkyard and is laser armed and dangerous. Back to you in the studio.")

Dedicated Robot TV channels ("Our special guest tonight is R2D2 who recently completed his fifth stint in rehab.")

Robot marriage ("If two robots want to marry, the owners should accommodate them. There's no mention of robots in the bible.")

Universal Robot Parts Care ("No robot should go without a tune-up. Under my 35 trillion dollar universal robot parts care every robot will be taken care of." - The President Question: "Sir, is it true your plan limits treatment options for older robots?" President: "Well, uh, well, uh, well, uh...but you get to keep your mechanic.")

Robot pushback by environmentalists who don't want rusty parts junkheaps (euphemistically refered to, by the President's Phraseology Czar, as Robot Resting Places)

Robot unions (Woohoo! More dues)

Robot Viagra (when the time is right...)

They'll cost a bazillion dollars and everyone will max out their credit cards to get one.

Say, will one of those do housework?
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I think robots should be allowed to show their nuts in public as it is part of their robot culture
The 'in' crowd of today practically shows 'em anyway. So no big jump of fashion. Just have the robots wear their pants down around their ankles and show all--they'll fit right in.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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We can't even make widescale electricity without burning something yet and we've only recently got robots to walk on 2 legs (but only just barely). We have a long way to go before we have 99% humanlike robots.

Honestly, we probably don't need human shaped robots anyway. A cashier robot can be a stationary box, a driving robot would be the CPU built inside of a car, A lifing robot that needs to get around would be more efficient with a multiple leg or wheeled platform, a babysitting robot would be more fun for the kids if it looked like a pony, ect, ect.

It would also be very hard for a stationary or wheeled robot to take over the world too.
AI has advanced quite far. The question is putting in in a small enough brain. But then remember when a computer was a huge box and did less than your cell phone. Things are still getting smaller and smaller. There is a Japanese robot which does look human. It has hunderds of small motors in its artifical skin to move the face and body like living beings do.

I think we need to see something more human looking if we are to happily interact with a cyborg. A box looks like a machine and we cannot relate. Why do they use a pleasent voice on phone systems? Not because it needs to be but for us to react to a *voice*.

The end of the last episode of BSG showed various cyborg/robotic things to show how the earth that grew of their survivors were recreating the cylons. Except all those things were REAL.

Not today, but in less time than you think the clerk at the 7-11 may be a cyborg. Not only will it cause huge waves in our economy (jobs selling stuff at convience stores are just as needed as the "big" jobs) but we will have to look at ourselves in a new way too.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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AI has advanced quite far. The question is putting in in a small enough brain. But then remember when a computer was a huge box and did less than your cell phone. Things are still getting smaller and smaller. There is a Japanese robot which does look human. It has hunderds of small motors in its artifical skin to move the face and body like living beings do.

I think we need to see something more human looking if we are to happily interact with a cyborg. A box looks like a machine and we cannot relate. Why do they use a pleasent voice on phone systems? Not because it needs to be but for us to react to a *voice*.
Yet we interact with mechanical boxes all the time. I'm typing into one right now. What about vending machines, ATMS ect? I do not want to interact with a machine that pretends to be a human; a machine is a tool.

Besides, the economics to support a cyborg industry isn't there and won't be as long as it's cheaper to hire third world labor.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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AI has advanced quite far. The question is putting in in a small enough brain. But then remember when a computer was a huge box and did less than your cell phone. Things are still getting smaller and smaller. There is a Japanese robot which does look human. It has hunderds of small motors in its artifical skin to move the face and body like living beings do.

I think we need to see something more human looking if we are to happily interact with a cyborg. A box looks like a machine and we cannot relate. Why do they use a pleasent voice on phone systems? Not because it needs to be but for us to react to a *voice*.

The end of the last episode of BSG showed various cyborg/robotic things to show how the earth that grew of their survivors were recreating the cylons. Except all those things were REAL.

Not today, but in less time than you think the clerk at the 7-11 may be a cyborg. Not only will it cause huge waves in our economy (jobs selling stuff at convience stores are just as needed as the "big" jobs) but we will have to look at ourselves in a new way too.

YouTube - Albert Einstein Humanoid Robot

like this one.

I think people in the US vastly underestimate how important robots will become, and how they will be integrated into our everyday life.
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