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Old 07-09-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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Would anyone call Obama white if he was a drug dealer on the street?

It's interesting. I myself am mixed(part white/black). In the USA though, I'm considered black by whites because of the 1 drop rule and because I'm of no significance to whites, just a low key regular citizen, not a celeb, rich or anything like that.

What I'm interested in is why until someone with a background like myself, who is labeled black there entire life black to white people, until they become successful or popular.

Then all of a sudden you're considered white, or not really black.

This happens countless times.

Obama, Tiger Woods are perfect examples. People say they arn't black, even though before they were somebody, whites labeled them as black until they were somebody.

Essentially whites try to strip away your blackness when you become somebody, and make sure to label you as black if you are just a regular person.
Um, I've never heard white people call Obama and Tiger etc. "white". What I HAVE heard is race-baiters from other ethnic communities say that "so and so has forgotten where they came from" or perhaps the term "acting white" might ring a bell to you?

Oh wait, there IS Bill Cosby....who is wildly successful...and he has been called white by....oh wait, those weren't white people calling him white. You sure you are imagining things? Some sources would be nice.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I was born in New Orleans and spent a goodly part of my life there. I also lived in L. A. WtheF are you talking about?

I don't know of any "creoles" in L.A. but I know a bunch in New Orleans and they gave up on the black denial thing back in 1968.
In LA, some still do have a "Black" creoles as apart from AfAmer mentality...that's my experience.

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Old 07-09-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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Ridiculous.

For every white person who says Obama isn't a black man, there are 10 blacks who are saying he isn't "black enough."
I know my fair share of black people and I've only heard that he wasn't
"black enough" once or twice...all being in jest.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Wow....after being white for 47 years....I never knew I thought this way.

I'm so glad you pointed all of this out to me.

How shallow I am.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Wow....after being white for 47 years....I never knew I thought this way.

I'm so glad you pointed all of this out to me.

How shallow I am.
Exactly. How DARE you be such a @!#$!!!@#$! racist, without even knowing it!!!!
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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I know my fair share of black people and I've only heard that he wasn't
"black enough" once or twice...all being in jest.
And blacks aren't the only people who do this either.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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Wow....after being white for 47 years....I never knew I thought this way.

I'm so glad you pointed all of this out to me.

How shallow I am.
I don't think the OP was pointing to anyone specifically. Everyone knows that all people don't act the same. The statements of the OP are more of a "if the shoe fits, wear it" point of view.

I do find it funny however that no one responded to the people who posted in this thread that outright said they were racist or feel that being leery of blacks was justified.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Exactly. How DARE you be such a @!#$!!!@#$! racist, without even knowing it!!!!

I know right? I always love it when an entire group of people to lumped into on generalization.

And it's never a good one either.
Oh well, people have to have someone to blame.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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Please get beyond the notion that there IS, in fact, some kind of unified group of people called Whites, it is your kind of thinking that so many of our countrymen are guilty of. If you have the time to sit around speculating on such inane subjects, you really need to find something constructive to occupy your time.....
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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I know right? I always love it when an entire group of people to lumped into on generalization.

And it's never a good one either.
Oh well, people have to have someone to blame.
I guess its ok when it happens if you are not the victim of it...there certainly have been plenty of examples of it happening on both sides but people only seem to get really upset when one side of it is discussed.
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