is whale wars sea shepherds cause just or unjust!!!?? (global warming, legal, activist)
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so what do you think are they doing a just cause or would you just consider them modern day pirates.
i've watched most of the shows on the animal planet and i feel that they are just in there cause.. japan claims that they are killing the whales for research, but i feel that it is just a loophole in the system.. it's just an excuse to kill whales and sell the meat and other whale products to make a profit!!!! why the hell would you need to kill 900 whales to do research??
Bascially they have no legal right to enforce anyhting. if a person decided to enforce the traffic laws by run vhicles offf the roadway what would you think. I see no difference in them doing this;they are attracking the whaling ships plain and simple.
I watched this show a couple times and found these clowns to be little more than comic relief . As to their 'cause'....I'm not a fan of whaling, but I'm not Japanese, so I won't judge them by my standards. The crew of this boat is about the most inept bunch of wannabe seamen I have ever seen. Whatever else they are, crusaders, activists, whatever, they are way out of their league on the high seas. The whalers are eating them alive and laugh at them more than anything.
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I watched this show a couple times and found these clowns to be little more than comic relief . As to their 'cause'....I'm not a fan of whaling, but I'm not Japanese, so I won't judge them by my standards. The crew of this boat is about the most inept bunch of wannabe seamen I have ever seen. Whatever else they are, crusaders, activists, whatever, they are way out of their league on the high seas. The whalers are eating them alive and laugh at them more than anything.
green peace is a joke!!! at least the sea shepherds are actually trying to do something.
sharks have been on this planet for 400 million years and we are going to wipe them of the face of the planet in less than 50!!
well the way i see it most people don't care about whales and sharks and a lot of other species.. but would rather talk about paris hilton>> sarah palin>> britney spears etc
someday people will wake up and focus on a priorities based system, but it will be to late by then!!
sharks have been on this planet for 400 million years and we are going to wipe them of the face of the planet in less than 50!!
well the way i see it most people don't care about whales and sharks and a lot of other species.. but would rather talk about paris hilton>> sarah palin>> britney spears etc
someday people will wake up and focus on a priorities based system, but it will be to late by then!!
OK, I'll give them an A for effort and cahones', but the one episode that sticks out to me was where they were trying to get the fastboats off the ship, finally managed to get one launched, and the boat handlers got the lines all twisted up on the second one. They were all tangled up in the lines , flailing around. One of the women got hurt bad on the boat that lauched as well. Shattered her pelvis. Ouch! I don't support wholesale slaughter of the sea. Just ain't right. What is to be done about it...I can't know. Short of turning our fast attack sub fleet loose on the whaling boats and such, countries like Japan and Russia will not stop what they are doing. They flat don't care.
When and if we ever start enforcing our laws of the sea with the forward gunmount, such obscene practices as bottom dragging or whale harvesting to the point of extinction will cease. Case in point: the Portugese, Japanese and Chinese fishing fleets.
Of course, it's no different to harpoon and "harvest" a whale than it is to process a few million cows a week in this country in support of McDonald's latest order for beef. Both are higher mammals.
The old "But cattle are raised for that purpose" doesn't cut it with thinkers. The only difference is that the whales are being driven to extinction, as the Canadians did with their east-coast cod population 15 years ago, and as they've done now with the West Coast Sockeye Salmon populations.
It's a good thing some of us have learned to live at least partially off the land. Too bad for the dependent city folk.
When and if we ever start enforcing our laws of the sea with the forward gunmount, such obscene practices as bottom dragging or whale harvesting to the point of extinction will cease. Case in point: the Portugese, Japanese and Chinese fishing fleets.
Of course, it's no different to harpoon and "harvest" a whale than it is to process a few million cows a week in this country in support of McDonald's latest order for beef. Both are higher mammals.
The old "But cattle are raised for that purpose" doesn't cut it with thinkers. The only difference is that the whales are being driven to extinction, as the Canadians did with their east-coast cod population 15 years ago, and as they've done now with the West Coast Sockeye Salmon populations.
It's a good thing some of us have learned to live at least partially off the land. Too bad for the dependent city folk.
There needs to be a clear line where utilization of resources and rape of resources is drawn. Thats hard to do with the oceans. We would need an entire Naval force unto itself to enforce such guidelines and too many countries would not get on board with such measures. I find it rather contradictory that the big Global warming hooey uses Kyoto as it's base. Lol, a city in a country that wholesale rapes the oceans is the namesake and founding ground of a treaty to protect the environment. Go figger.
Their cause is totally just. If whalers had their way there would be no cetaceans left. They seem not to realize that the crews running interference are doing their sorry butts a favor.
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OK, I'll give them an A for effort and cahones', but the one episode that sticks out to me was where they were trying to get the fastboats off the ship, finally managed to get one launched, and the boat handlers got the lines all twisted up on the second one. They were all tangled up in the lines , flailing around. One of the women got hurt bad on the boat that lauched as well. Shattered her pelvis. Ouch! I don't support wholesale slaughter of the sea. Just ain't right. What is to be done about it...I can't know. Short of turning our fast attack sub fleet loose on the whaling boats and such, countries like Japan and Russia will not stop what they are doing. They flat don't care.
well at least they are trying.. everthing is based on trial and era including the very systems that govern our everyday existace!!! scary to think that the house of cards is giong to come crashing down sooner rather than later.
well at least they are trying.. everthing is based on trial and era including the very systems that govern our everyday existace!!! scary to think that the house of cards is giong to come crashing down sooner rather than later.
Trying to look like idiots and wasting the donated funds by being inept.
They are grossly inexperienced and chose to crew thier boat with unqualified individuals because they are friends or have the right amount of fervor.
If I were a major donor of theirs I'd be pissed that they were squandering my money by being LESS EFFECTIVE than they should because they staffed the boat poorly.
Lastly, you don't win hearts and minds through violence.
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. As to their 'cause'....I'm not a fan of whaling, but I'm not Japanese, so I won't judge them by my standards. The crew of this boat is about the most inept bunch of wannabe seamen I have ever seen. Whatever else they are, crusaders, activists, whatever, they are way out of their league on the high seas. The whalers are eating them alive and laugh at them more than anything.
. One of the women got hurt bad on the boat that lauched as well. Shattered her pelvis. Ouch! I don't support wholesale slaughter of the sea. Just ain't right. What is to be done about it...I can't know. Short of turning our fast attack sub fleet loose on the whaling boats and such, countries like Japan and Russia will not stop what they are doing. They flat don't care.
