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Im not saying this shouldnt be banned and its common sense why it was, but im 25 years old and I remember when i was around 4 or 5 in a few places there were cigarettes in vending machines. Anybody else remember this and how the heck did they keep teens from buying them!?!?!
They need to remove the ban on ephedrine diet pills. They were very effective. I read that somewhere around 150 people died of heart attacks in the 10 years or so they were on the market. Big deal, compare that to cigarettes which are still legal.
Im not saying this shouldnt be banned and its common sense why it was, but im 25 years old and I remember when i was around 4 or 5 in a few places there were cigarettes in vending machines. Anybody else remember this and how the heck did they keep teens from buying them!?!?!
A pack of cigarettes cost 23c. You put a quarter in the machine, and there would be two pennies inside the cellophane outer pack on the side. They were specially packaged by the tobacco companies for vending machine sales, with those pennies inside. Nobody cared if kids bought them, although it was supposedly against the law.
About half of the bans you named did not involve our federal government at all. They are treaty bans, in which the US agreed to comply with international treaties. In reciprocity with other countries complying with things that we wanted to be globally enforced.
Nope, only one (whaling), and we could have lodged a protest and abstained from that one. But we have a federal ban on even importing legally harvested whale products from, say, Norway or such, from abundant whales like the minke. The Marine Mammal Protection Act is behind most of what I listed other than the gun stuff. A person can hunt polar bears or seals in Canada, but can't even bring back and use the animal.
A pack of cigarettes cost 23c. You put a quarter in the machine, and there would be two pennies inside the cellophane outer pack on the side. They were specially packaged by the tobacco companies for vending machine sales, with those pennies inside. Nobody cared if kids bought them, although it was supposedly against the law.
You are way off on this one. A pack of cigarettes did not cost 23 cents 20 years ago. Not even close, more like a $1.50 a pack.
This is not problematic at all. The law is that a certain activity is illegal or criminal "if a reasonable person would recognize the behavior as falling within the meaning of the law". We trust judges and juries to determine, on a case by case basis, where that line resides.
my point wasn't that it was problematic; i don't see it as a problem so long as society can still agree to disagree with some of the issues and abide by the rules in the mean time.
the reason i mention it was simply because my mind immediately went down the moral decision track, where we decide what laws we will support based on societal morals. of course, everyone that has studied the issue knows that individual societies have different social and moral codes, and that what makes sense for a european country does not necessarily work in japan, for instance, and vice versa.
what things are reasonable to ban and what things are not reasonable to ban is a huge issue that my brain probably can't fully handle. there are just too many contextual details that require a case by case study.
i am content to say that in general, bans are dumb ideas though, because a lot of the bans that have been legislated or even just attempted throughout history were based on generally fallacious reasoning.
EDIT: incidentally, wasn't this actually part of the other thread, or did i just obliviously walk into this thread for my first post assuming that it was part of the last one?
yes good one!!! but i personally would like to see it be legal for all people of the world to be alowed to cary ozi machine guns it surly would be good for population controll
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A pack of cigarettes did not cost 23 cents 20 years ago. Not even close, more like a $1.50 a pack.
