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Your the one who said that evolution was dogmatic. I simply supplied you video showing that it wasn't a religion, it is a science, which is evolving.
Their argument is the same one they've had for years, and they have no proof. Evolution is supported by proof, proof in the fossil records, proof in countless other studies.
As in "flock of do-dos" so elequently puts it, "They won't submit any evidence before peer review, because they have no evidence." At least Evolution is open for debate on its holes.
I did NOT say that the theory of evolution is dogmatic. I said teaching it as pure fact is dogmatic. It requires just as much pure FAITH to accept evolution as the 'way' as it does creation. There is just as much debate in theology as there is in secular science as well. Your stream of video links does nothing to change my position (which you still seem to be missing) I live in an area that , as I said, is a treasure trove of the fossil record. I find the science behind the theory of evolution to be quite engrossing. I also have seen clues to our origins in much of theology as well. Despite the poetic prose of certain scripture, if you look twixt the lines there is much that can be converted to pure science. For someone who claims to be so open minded and debate oriented, you show a remarkable lack of acceptance for a differing view. THAT is dogmatic. You have chosen to completely ignore sources of information, simply because those sources have a religious origin. I, on the other hand, choose to try and blend things. As I said, the answer to a complicated equation often lies in the middle rather than on each end. I'm being as scientific as anyone. More so than many. I do not accept either evolution or creation at face value. I believe that the two can compliment each other if examined properly, and studied by critical minds. What is so blasted odd about that take on things?
Which "science"? The science of 35 years ago, when I was in school and they were cramming an entirely different "theory of evolution" down our throats - claiming it was scientifically proven fact - only to have all these facts now reversed because science has proven them wrong?
I'm rather surprised by how much faith you put in something that claims to be scientific fact, yet keeps changing.
Yeah, and religion and the bible dont keep changing? How many different churches are out there now compared to say 35 years ago? or 100 years ago?
Also, how many different translations of the bible are there now? Last time I was at a christian book store it was offered in several different forms including one that was put in the laguage of modern teens..thats right, They keep dumbing down the bible so that everyone can read it and it loses more and more every time.
Telll me, mr fractured man, when you are on trial for killing someone you didn't kill and the witness is coming to testify and he has to 'tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth'...and he puts his hand on that book (if he still has to) what does it mean to tell the truth? Why is it necessary? Why not lie? what is the result of lying? What is so important about 'truth'?
Because honesty is the best thing. If you arent honest with others then you arent honest with yourself and you lose everything that supposedly makes you unique and who you are.
I did NOT say that the theory of evolution is dogmatic. I said teaching it as pure fact is dogmatic. It requires just as much pure FAITH to accept evolution as the 'way' as it does creation. There is just as much debate in theology as there is in secular science as well. Your stream of video links does nothing to change my position (which you still seem to be missing) I live in an area that , as I said, is a treasure trove of the fossil record. I find the science behind the theory of evolution to be quite engrossing. I also have seen clues to our origins in much of theology as well. Despite the poetic prose of certain scripture, if you look twixt the lines there is much that can be converted to pure science. For someone who claims to be so open minded and debate oriented, you show a remarkable lack of acceptance for a differing view. THAT is dogmatic. You have chosen to completely ignore sources of information, simply because those sources have a religious origin. I, on the other hand, choose to try and blend things. As I said, the answer to a complicated equation often lies in the middle rather than on each end. I'm being as scientific as anyone. More so than many. I do not accept either evolution or creation at face value. I believe that the two can compliment each other if examined properly, and studied by critical minds. What is so blasted odd about that take on things?
Show me science that is peered reviewed, and widely accepted in the scientific community that shows that Earth is 6,000 years old, and was created in 6 days.
Then I'll be more accepting of it. As for now, I remain open to the evidence, however, until there is some, I refuse to believe speculation.
It's already been proven - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that the Theory of Evolution is bad science. In fact, it's such horrible science that it has straightway jettisoned out of the realm of science and into the realm of science fiction fantasy.
Every time these "evolutionary facts" are proven wrong, the facts are just reinvented.
But still, you'll insist that the Theory of Evolution is NOT a religion. Talk about having to live by faith!
Can you show me where it has been proven wrong? without religious backing?
Here's another one. In my state, it is illegal for me to drive an automobile without meeting a religious test. I am required to have insurance. My insurance policy exempts itself from liability if a casualty is an Act of God. This is a non-negotiable contract which I am bound to subscribe to, if I wish to drive a motorcar. In other words, I must enter into a binding contract acknowledging that there is a God who Acts, in order to have the legal right to drive a car. And nobody is allowed to legally drive, unless making that acknowledgment of God.
We can observe that which we can see within the time and space we are seeing it and within a reality that we assume. In a cosmological sense, that's nothing. We are blind. So we guess, or accept somebody else's guess as fact. And then we tell everyone that the other guy who doesn't accept our guess is stupid and that we are smart because we’ve guessed correctly.
It's pointless. You may as well go to a casino and argue with the guy spinning the roulette wheel that on the next spin the ball will land on double zero. How much sense does that make?
Rather than trying to convince everyone that the roll will be double zero, slap your money on the table, be quiet about it, and watch the spin. If you are an Atheist and the ball stops on double zero... congratulations!!! You win, you don’t exist. Hooray. If you are a Theist and the ball stops on double zero... congratulations!!! You win, you get to sit on God’s lap, or come back to earth as a grub worm, or whatever. Hooray.
You may wish to consider the idea that whatever is going to happen will happen whether you believe it will or you don’t.
And you may wish to consider this too: If you placed a bet at a craps table that the next roll would be two sixes and the guy next to you started arguing that you made a ridiculous bet, what would you say to him?
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I believe you are both right--Theist and Atheist alike. Oh my!!! How can that be? Hmmmm. But just think if it can be, then I can't be wrong, can I? Can something be and not be?
Sorry, it's the baby spinach with italian I had for dinner. Somebody slipped something into it.
Show me science that is peered reviewed, and widely accepted in the scientific community that shows that Earth is 6,000 years old, and was created in 6 days.
Then I'll be more accepting of it. As for now, I remain open to the evidence, however, until there is some, I refuse to believe speculation.
Where are you getting this stuff? Where did I say a thing about how old the Earth is? Look at it this way. Does the Bible say that ancient Babylon existed? Does science back that up? Are there references to any other ancient civilizations in the Bible, Koran, Torah etc, that have been proven to have existed by modern science? Are these facts accepted by all of your peers in the scientific community?Do the various scriptures , when viewed as an historical record, make reference to major events in the Earths past, that are backed up by modern science? Volcanic activity, earthquakes, solar eclipses etc? The answer is yes. How is it conjecture then, to blend the writings together and examine the history? Never did I say I bought into the 6000 year old Earth created by a faceless figure in flowing robes sitting on a golden throne. YOU are inserting that, for unknown reasons, but apparently to make me out to be some kind of religious wacko. I view the religious texts as history. They are quite useful that way. So, what is the unfounded technique here?
Here's another one. In my state, it is illegal for me to drive an automobile without meeting a religious test. I am required to have insurance. My insurance policy exempts itself from liability if a casualty is an Act of God. This is a non-negotiable contract which I am bound to subscribe to, if I wish to drive a motorcar. In other words, I must enter into a binding contract acknowledging that there is a God who Acts, in order to have the legal right to drive a car. And nobody is allowed to legally drive, unless making that acknowledgment of God.
That is the religious community gone too far.
No, that is a ridiculous little semantics game you just played - not to mention the flagrant lie about having to pass a religious test in order to drive.
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Oh my!!! How can that be? Hmmmm. But just think if it can be, then I can't be wrong, can I? 
Can something be and not be? 
YOU are inserting that, for unknown reasons, but apparently to make me out to be some kind of religious wacko. I view the religious texts as history. They are quite useful that way. So, what is the unfounded technique here?
