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Liberal ideals are more consistent with a complex society. The solutions proffered by conservatives are simply unworkable outside a more simplified rural community. For example, a City Council meeting in Philadelphia has far more issues to contend with than crumb cake discussions of a town like Wasilla.
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Actually I have, probably a 100 as a result of being assigned to cover them for one paper or another.
Or read for comprehension, seeing how I specifically singled out Wasilla, and by way Ms. Palin, for the crumb cake jibe.
Sorry, but within the context of my remarks, I am simply unimpressed.
Not surprised by your "unimpressed", you've made quite clear your dislike if not hatred for things and people rural. I would imagine crumbcake is more your speed anyway when it comes down to it.
Oh yeah, the bolded is to point out your selective memory. You didn't single out Wasilla, or Palin, you said "like Wasilla".
I believe that the balance of humans preferring rural life and urban life a can be compared to what biologists observe in the replacement of charismatic species such as the wide-ranging mountain lion and the jaguar with more mundane, but more adaptable, species such as coyotes and cockroaches. And where example can be drawn from domesticated animals, livestock adapts easily to living on concrete and being fed daily, just as humans do. Rest assured that, just as charismatic species and free-ranging livestock are slowly disappearing, so are Americans who can distinguish freedom from a warm one bedroom apartment two flights up and public services from a full feedbag.
This is why I like living in the country, because I can do what I want and there's nobody to tell me I can't. To me, this seems to suit a conservative political ideology as well.
I don't think that describes a conservative political ideology well at all, at least how many conservatives practice it. I think it's more of of battle of WHICH PARTICULAR issues a conservative (or liberal) wants to be left alone about. For instance, in many very red, rural towns (mine included) people may want to be left alone about shooting their guns around but they may not want to let a person marry someone of the same sex.
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What about people who are the opposite of my hypothesis? Any conservatives here who actually prefer city life or liberals who prefer rural living?
Me - a liberal who prefers rural living. I think there are quite a few in this category, though you're probably right that it's not as common as conservatives in the country. Still, some of the things that are appealing about living in a rural area are especially appealing to many liberal types. For me, it's having my own chickens (thus not supporting mega-agriculture in that way), gardening, composting, and being so close to magnificent natural space.
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I wonder if any city liberals move to the countryside and switch to conservatism?
I haven't switched over yet, despite having moved from the city to a rural area.
I'm a conservative and I love cities. Then again, I'm more of the libertarian style than of the say "Jerry Fawell" style of conservative.
Like others have noted, in the countryside, weither you make it or break it in life is 100% your responsiblity. So from an economic presepctive, the concept of being reliant on government for your survival is abhorrant and alien. In a city, due to proximity and complexity, there's more of a need to try and keep the peace btw people.
And while I know I'm going to get flamed for this, it has to be said: From a social angle, rural/suburban areas tend to attract a certain mindset of person who doesn't particulary like people who are "Different" from himself, be it culturally, racially, socially, philsophically, etc. It's extremely hard to insulate yourself from those you don't particularly care for in a city.
I believe that the balance of humans preferring rural life and urban life a can be compared to what biologists observe in the replacement of charismatic species such as the wide-ranging mountain lion and the jaguar with more mundane, but more adaptable, species such as coyotes and cockroaches. And where example can be drawn from domesticated animals, livestock adapts easily to living on concrete and being fed daily, just as humans do. Rest assured that, just as charismatic species and free-ranging livestock are slowly disappearing, so are Americans who can distinguish freedom from a warm one bedroom apartment two flights up and public services from a full feedbag.
Given that 80% of the population lives in urban areas? Yeah I can see the redneck logic working there.
Given that 80% of the population lives in urban areas? Yeah I can see the redneck logic working there.
Yup, today, at our darkest moment Americas population is mostly urban.
But in the past, at our best & most profitable it wasn't so was it? The liberalization of America is the cause of our inability to stay in the black.
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