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Old 01-11-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Addiction is very real, whether physical, as in alcohol or opiate derivatives, or psychological, as in cocaine.

However, some people are more prone to addiction. There is a certain personality that is more likely to become addicted--the narcissistic person who only sees things from the perspective of how they relate to him or her. Those traits persist even when the person is sober/clean.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Addiction is very real, whether physical, as in alcohol or opiate derivatives, or psychological, as in cocaine.

However, some people are more prone to addiction. There is a certain personality that is more likely to become addicted--the narcissistic person who only sees things from the perspective of how they relate to him or her. Those traits persist even when the person is sober/clean.
That's very true. I've known people with addictive personality. They have no problem at all going n the wagon and giving up drinking, as long as they can go to the dog track and replace their alcoholism with gambling.
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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That's very true. I've known people with addictive personality. They have no problem at all going n the wagon and giving up drinking, as long as they can go to the dog track and replace their alcoholism with gambling.
And sometimes they find religion as their replacement. Some of the most virulent proselytizers I've ever known were former addicts.
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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Doing something you "like" doing falls under the umbrella of addiction as soon as it militates against use of that time for activities that are essential to what would otherwise be your well-being
You're wrong. Addicts don't like the things they do. Otherwise it wouldn't be a problem.

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Old 01-11-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Default "Is addiction made up?"

Yea it is. I can quit anytime...

Now where did I put my pack of cigarettes?
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You're wrong. Addicts don't like the things they do. Otherwise it wouldn't be a problem.
Smokers don't enjoy a cigarette? Sex addicts don't like sex?
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Smokers don't enjoy a cigarette? Sex addicts don't like sex?

Do smoker's enjoy lung cancer? Do they enjoy paying $5.00 for a pack of cigarettes?
Do sex addicts enjoy AIDs? Do they enjoy cheating on their spouses?
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Smokers don't enjoy a cigarette? Sex addicts don't like sex?
They might enjoy it in the moment, but a true addict feels guilt, remorse, and self-loathing afterward. It's a vicious cycle where they turn to what makes them feel bad for that fleeting moment when it makes them feel good.

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Old 01-11-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Do smoker's enjoy lung cancer? Do they enjoy paying $5.00 for a pack of cigarettes?
Do sex addicts enjoy AIDs? Do they enjoy cheating on their spouses?
You didn't say they don't enjoy the consequences. You said "Addicts don't like the things they do."

Nobody enjoys the consequences of what they do. According to your logic, nobody enjoys going on vacation, because the expenses will be on their next Master Card statement.
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:03 PM
 
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You didn't say they don't enjoy the consequences. You said "Addicts don't like the things they do."

An addict will do something for a "pleasure" this does not neccessarily mean that they actually enjoy what they are doing. After they do the behavior that gave them so much "pleasure" they do not like what they have done. It's called remorse.
And then to do this behavior over and over and over again knowing the outcome will always be the same they still do it. Another word that you may not be familiar with is insanity.

There is no logic in the situation it's just the way it is.
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